On 8/8/25 13:45, Andrew Harvey wrote:
My preference is to set motor_vehicle=private and omit the generic
access tag, so
highway=track
foot=yes
bicycle=yes
motor_vehicle=private
(no access tag set)
This makes it clear that authorised motor vehicles (like fire trucks,
emergency services, national park rangers etc) can drive on the track
and the public can walk and cycle on the track.
Potentially stepping up to foot=designated + bicycle=designated if
they are signposted as explicitly allowed.
Technically access=private + foot=yes + bicycle=yes would mean the
same thing, it implies that it's private, except public for walkers
and cyclists, but I find that the tagging can be confused as private
for everyone, and especially in this case it's public land and public
access, just with restrictions for motor_vehicles.
Though others in the community have other opinions, it's been
discussed a few times, for example at
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/164404229
This would allow horse riders even though the tagging has not mentioned
them. The NSW NP have signs to say what is publicly allowed ... they may
not indicate what is not allowed or what is 'privately' allowed. Locally
to me I can tell walkers and cyclists are allowed on maintenance tracks,
cyclists are not allowed on walking paths while walkers are, camping is
not allowed. I've not seen any indication for horse riders in my locality.
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 at 13:14, Darryl Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey All,
Before I go make a bunch of changes, I just wanted to make sure
I'm about to do the right thing.
There are a bunch of fire / forest management tracks in the
Dandenong Ranges National Park which are showing up as roads on
the mapping software I use for my walking (CityStrides for those
interested). All of these tracks are all gated from vehicle
traffic so I'm working out how to make them not "roads" without
messing up OSM.
An example of one of these tracks is
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/410016222. This is currently tagged:
highway=track
foot=yes
bicycle=yes
Is there any problem of adding access=private to these tracks and
leaving the foot/bicycle tags in place? Is there any reason to
*not* do this?
Thanks
Darryl
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