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Dankjewel Alexander en Sander.

Georges


2013/3/2 Jo <winfi...@gmail.com>

> Alexander implemented Sander's suggestion on Openlinkmap.org:
>
> Go to:
>
> http://www.openlinkmap.org/?zoom=18&lat=50.8819&lon=4.71503&layers=BFTTTTT
>
> Make sure the public transport layer is in view
>
> Click on one of the stops.
>
> Click on the link after timetables and get the passages of buses at that
> stop in real time.
>
> This only works for stops where operator contains De Lijn and ref is
> (already) set to the six digit number found on all the stops.
>
> Thanks to Alexander and Sander!
>
> Jo
>
>
> 2013/1/31 Sander Deryckere <sander...@gmail.com>
>
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/31 Jo <winfi...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I like that proposal, but I don't know how to implement it for
>>> openlinkmap. The developer is accepting patches, but he doesn't have time
>>> to code stuff himself anymore.
>>>
>>
>> That's a pity.
>>
>>>
>>> My initial proposal had the advantage of instant gratification. It would
>>> work with the current tagging habits. It's true that it has the
>>> disadvantage of being dependent on the continued use of that url domain by
>>> De Lijn and it's more verbose than I would like.
>>>
>>
>> I agree with the advantage it has, but it creates other difficulties like
>> maintainability of the database. It's like the "Don't tag for the
>> renderer", only, a bit different.
>>
>> It's not because openlinkmap displays a certain tag, that we should tag
>> everything this way.
>>
>>>
>>> One small remark. The way I understand it we are moving to replacing
>>> highway=bus_stop with public_transport=platform. So it should work for that
>>> combination of tags as well.
>>>
>>> And it should be enough that a node contains De Lijn. Some stops are
>>> shared with MIVB/STIB, TEC and VEOLIA.
>>>
>>
>> These are valid remarks, and show why the configuration file should be
>> crowd sourced. A single developer can never come up with all these
>> exceptions for all these different nations.
>>
>>>
>>> Jo
>>>
>>>
>> I looked at the openlinkmap code, and it seems that he's filtering a lot
>> of tags before the file gets imported in a database. The filtering also
>> happens with a program that doesn't allow regex, only wildcards. So reading
>> such a configuration file would be a hell of a job.
>>
>> I think I found something better. We could use the osmosis tagtransform
>> plugin (http://wiki.osm.org/Osmosis/TagTransform).  Where we could use a
>> configuration file to transform tags to an url:*= tag. Like the example
>> from De Lijn could be as following: http://pastebin.com/4G4FPyEq(currently 
>> writing to url:delijn, but we could also check for the existence
>> of an url tag, and write to that if it's not present).
>>
>> The disadvantages of this tool are that an url tag can only be created
>> from a single other tag (as the discussion page on the wiki says), And a
>> key needs to stay a key, and a value needs to stay a value.
>>
>> Another drawback might be the installation of an extra plugin. It doesn't
>> seem so easy as it should be (version conflicts etc). But it should be very
>> straightforward to use the file afterwards, and to have this file crowd
>> sourced. And, on the positive side, the osmosis team is looking into making
>> this task part of the standard installation. In which case you won't have
>> to install anything new at all.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sander
>>
>
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