I would not drop the ref. The ref is visible on the signs, so it is a
"real thing". I have no problem that people add the URL as well. The
same is done for heritage sites. There is both a ref
(refLOnroerendErfgoed and a heritage:website.)

m.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 10:52 AM Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Our bus stops in Flanders have unique identifiers visible to the public on 
> the flags of the stop poles.
>
> I started by entering those in the ref tag, then later decided to use 
> ref:De_Lijn=y0yyyy, as some of those stops are served by other operators as 
> well.
>
> For several years now itt's possible to obtain real-time information about 
> the buses on a url+identifier, so I want to add that to those stops. As i 
> don't like to duplicate information I'd prefer to drop the ref:De_Lijn though.
>
> So all of those stops would have:
> url=http://mijnlijn.be/303079    (<- you can test this, the url is 
> expanded/translated to a url on www.delijn.be)
>
> For the conversion, I'd like to launch a Belgian "Project of the month", so 
> the position of the stops can be verified once more by locals, but also 
> shelters and bus_bays can be added and if cycle ways split off to go around 
> those bus bays, that detail can be added as well.
>
> I know that that is what we have been doing for the past 5+ years, but now it 
> would get some more dedicated focus.
>
> For several years I thought having the identifier n a dedicated ref:X tag and 
> then telling everyone about how to turn it into such a url was the way to 
> go,. That doesn't actually work though. Nobody knows how to get from the 
> identifer to the url. Giving potential passengers a url they can simply click 
> through on, seems to be the better way of doing this for this use case.
>
> Polyglot
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