In the mean time check out the islands off of Tofino, the beach renders fine
IMO. (i prefer not to list it as an amenity=beach, since it's not varified
if the beach is public or not).  Until people are actually there.   (this
one, (I think) you can take a water taxie to and camp on the island. ... and
call the taxie when you want a ride back. :-)   I'll post the water routes
as it's standard like a ferry route.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.2081&lon=-126.0378&zoom=12&layers=B000FTF


On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Emanuel Borsboom <emanuel.borsb...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> The rendering seems to be better this morning than when I looked at it last
> night (the "missing" streams on Saturna have turned up).  Mostly the data
> looks pretty good.  The two "Brown Ridge" nodes on Saturna are a odd,
> because they seem to define the beginning and end of a ridge that might be
> better expressed as a way (is it appropriate to use a way to describe a
> geographical feature?).  They also don't account for the valley between Mt
> Fisher and Mt Warburton Pike, which interrupts the ridge.
>

There just peaks... no clue.. it's in the canvec database as natural=peak...
so it's not really a 'ridge' thats just what someone said there called.
(would't a ridge be a way? ... since you cant tag it all... nor would it be
appropriate to have a line, for it.  ... if it was natural=cliff, then thats
different.    Just like it's "Vancouver Island Ranges".   Showing a whole
area.



>
> The lake within a wetland on Tumbo Island seems correct (I've been there).
>  The sub_sea=water_flow inside the lake seems a bit strange, but it could
> make sense because it may be possible that the wetland gets seawater in it
> at extreme high tides (but I've never been on Tumbo during a spring tide).


Since the flow data is available,.. i think it's helpful to have, and useful
to those who are interested. ... ie where fish might be more likely? (dont
lazy fish like to just go with the flow?)

>
>
> I noticed that there now seem to be two polygons defining the shape of
> Tumbo - the original natural=coastline, plus a new place=island that looks
> much more accurate (the original coastline, for example, connects Tumbo and
> Cabbage Island, which I suppose could be correct at an extreme low tide due
> to the shallow reef between them, but they really are separate islands).
>  The outer natural=coastline is being rendered, though... maybe it should be
> deleted?  Would a place=island be rendered the same way as a
> natural=coastline?
>

I think we should keep the outer ring... but not sure.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.2081&lon=-126.0378&zoom=12&layers=B000FTF
take a look at the contours. ... in the .zip file contours are also
available.

I dont have an answer for that one yet :)

>
> There are two overlapping piers on Tumbo.  In any case, the pier is falling
> apart and is totally unusable now.


One was from the geobaseNHN and the other from CanVec.

Do you think that merrits including the 'date_created=*' on all the
features?


>
>
> Also, the parks information is out-of-date.  Cabbage Island is no longer a
> provincial marine park; instead, both Tumbo and Cabbage are now part of the
> Gulf Islands National Park Reserve.


When i finished loading all the 'protected areas' it might show up in there.
  Maybe having the 'date_created' would help?


>
> Is coastline information like that on Tumbo available for other islands?
>  I've noticed the current OSM coastlines are incredibly inaccurate (you can
> see that on Mayne where there are places that roads appear to cross the
> sea).
>

Also, you see nodes all over the place. .. i'm not removing them (they dont
render anyway), that was someone elses coastline data.

And yup, the rest of the country is available like that.

Maybe adding the coastline tag to the islands, and removing the old one?

I recomment: Just make a backup of the coast line (the area) 1st.  then
experiment with, and see how is renders.

Have you tried KOSMOS?  it now uses better contour lines (new NASA data).
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kosmos

Hope that helps,
Cheers,
Sam


>
>
>
> On 31-Jul-09, at 7:11 PM, Sam Vekemans wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>> I just put in a few island and water features over on Tumbo Island  and
>> Saturna Island. (from GeoBaseNHN)
>> Please take a look at it and tell me what you think.  The rendering of it
>> is interesting.
>> Take a look at it in JOSM too.
>>
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.79371&lon=-123.06587&zoom=15&layers=B000FTF
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sam
>>
>
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