Totally, it's for money reasons :-(


> Le 2014-12-30 à 09:37, Adam Martin <s.adam.mar...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I was reading over the previous discussions held here regarding the issue of 
> obtaining postal codes for use with civic addresses in Canada. I understand 
> that, unless specific permission is obtained, there is no way to utilize the 
> information stored in the Canada Post database, even if that information is 
> manually acquired from the database during a lookup. The use is restricted to 
> a very limited personal or business application - ie, I want to send a 
> package and I use the database to get the postal code of the address.
> 
> It initially appears odd that Canada Post would be very restrictive with the 
> code data. I understand that they maintain consumer names with the address 
> data, but the OSM project would not be seeking that connective data, just the 
> bare address to attach to a civic or business address. Looking about their 
> site, I eventually encountered this little gem ---> 
> https://www.canadapost.ca/cpo/mc/business/productsservices/mailing/pcdp.jsf
> 
> It would appear that Canada Post sells a data product that is, effectively, 
> the postal code data attached to a map. It is provided to businesses for the 
> purposes of datamining, allowing them to hone their mailings or identify 
> exploitable market areas. The cynic in me figures that this is the real 
> reason that they won't give OSM the permission to use the data. Not for 
> protection of the consumer or for privacy, but to make money. Fair enough - 
> it is technically a business.
> 
> Anyway, it would appear that obtaining the information from Canada Post is, 
> basically, a dead end. Might I suggest an alternative? Why not a volunteer 
> effort? I can't look up a code and reproduce it on the map, but I can surely 
> put my own postal code and those of my previous addresses into the map. That 
> knowledge has nothing to do with looking it up on their website. I also know 
> the code for my small hometown in Newfoundland as I lived there for years and 
> the entire town uses the same code. Perhaps there is a way to gather the 
> information voluntarily from Canadian citizens and businesses. Basically go 
> around them? For example, a survey on the Reddit forum for Canada could be 
> asked or something like that. The more we can get without using the post 
> office, the better. Business websites are easily some of the best sources - 
> they offer their mail address without any restriction so that is fair use too.
> 
> Just a thought!
> 
> Adam
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