Why wouldn't this be added value to osm? Maybe not in your use case, but
for statistics, disaster relief and even routing this would be valuable to
have on the map.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you really want to add 300,000 building outline to the map?  If it was
> just the non residential ones I think that is reasonable but adding every
> residential house is adding less value.  Can we identify and omit the
> obvious single family homes?
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 3 Aug 2016 7:57 pm, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <
> bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:
>
>> James,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for this. Comparing with what is already there and the new data
>> is definitely a major first step.
>>
>>
>>
>> For licensing, we are making sure to follow terms and conditions. So far,
>> footprints that we obtained are all cleared for use.
>>
>> Getting addresses is going to be part of the collection stage from
>> participants so we it will be in the fields people can fill out.
>>
>> Hopefully, it helps to complete what’s missing.
>>
>>
>>
>> We will make available about 300 000 buildings for Ottawa soon. Dave and
>> Mojgan suggested methodologies to do the import in segments.
>>
>> We can look into those as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bjenk
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* July-26-16 7:55 AM
>>
>> *To:* Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
>> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> For Gatineau, I've been manually tracing buildings via this project:
>>
>> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/1
>>
>> The yellow squares are the ones I completed in tracing the buildings, so
>> during the review stage, the work could be compared to what Gatineau gives
>> you to make sure everything is correct and not any missing buildings(old
>> Satellite imagery data)
>>
>> We could use
>> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/2
>>
>> For Ottawa, I've not started on this yet, as Gatineau has a lot of
>> buildings and I am not even near completing it.
>>
>> One of the major issues will be merging with the existing data, that's
>> why I think a tasking manager will be appropriate for the task. There is
>> also the licensing issue(I think you've covered this in the past).
>>
>> Gatineau currently has all address points in OSM so no need to combine
>> them with the buildings. Ottawa does not due to licensing issues.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <
>> bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Hi James,
>>
>>
>>
>> We are working in partnerships with both municipalities of Ottawa and
>> Gatineau. So far, Ottawa has given us two files. One is a large buildings
>> file available through their open data portal. It contains about 16 000
>> building footprints.  The other is a larger file with over 300 000
>> buildings in it. That one contains footprints that are not on OSM after a
>> quick look through.
>>
>>
>>
>> John mentioned that the best way to make it available is through the TB
>> open data portal so I am going to look into that.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are talking with Gatineau and they will join the project. I will give
>> updates on how this is going.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
>>
>>
>>
>> Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et
>> l’intégration de données (LEID)
>>
>> Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur
>> les entreprises
>>
>> Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
>>
>> (343) 998-3004
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* July-18-16 4:58 PM
>> *To:* Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
>> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> Should be pretty easy on the Gatineau sode as all the address points are
>> there, as for Ottawa, not so much until they decide to change their license
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2016 11:28 AM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <
>> bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Dear members of the Board of Directors,
>>
>>
>>
>> My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and
>> Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada
>> initiated a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of
>> data crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting
>> contributors to crowdsource information on non-residential buildings
>> (footprints, addresses and simple building attributes). The pilot project
>> will focus on the Ottawa-Gatineau region.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes
>> people from five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the
>> municipalities of Ottawa and Gatineau.
>>
>>
>>
>> In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke with Paul
>> Norman. At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We have
>> done quite a lot of background research and planning since then (although
>> much learning remains to be done). The preliminary idea has evolved in a
>> proof of concept proposal and, from there, into the current project.
>>
>>
>>
>> Earlier this month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local
>> (Canada/Ottawa) OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in
>> the coming months by engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca.
>>
>>
>>
>> This pilot project is a major innovative undertaking for our Agency.
>> There are a multitude of aspects that we need to assess and learn about
>> (including the IT dimension, communications,  legal aspects, etc.).
>>
>>
>>
>> For this reason, there is also a lot of excitement about the project and
>> much curiosity from senior management. We know that crowdsourcing is a
>> reality but, as far as I know, there has been no other attempt to assess
>> its potential from the perspective of a national statistical office.
>>
>>
>>
>> One of our Assistant Chief Statisticians, in particular, who is
>> championing the innovation projects at Statistics Canada, has a keen
>> interest in this project. At some point, we would like to have an
>> “institutional” meeting between Statistics Canada and OSM (although I am
>> not quite sure in which shape and form this can take place). I am open to
>> your suggestions.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am copying my colleague Bjenk Ellefsen, who is part of our team and who
>> will follow-up on most of the communication with the OSM community on
>> Talk-Ca.
>>
>>
>>
>> I look forward to hearing from you and to engaging the OSM community on
>> this project.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will soon write more about the project!
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
>>
>>
>>
>> Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et
>> l’intégration de données (LEID)
>>
>> Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur
>> les entreprises
>>
>> Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
>>
>> (343) 998-3004
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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