I don’t mind reviewing the OSM education wiki for lessons learned and “promising practices” and seeing how it might inform the design of a mapathon event aligned to the K-12 curricula and postsecondary capstone project model. It will be messy, but that’s the nature of the beast. To use the jargon, start small, fail fast and apply what you learn to the next event.
Durham Region is planning on hosting a mapathon event as early as this March. I’m working with the GIS Supervisor who also teaches GIS to 2nd year environmental science students at Durham College. I also have a teacher who is very good at working with students who normally would not participate in these kinds of events, but who have street knowledge. Jamie Boyd and Moses Iziomon at the Treasury Board’s Open Government branch may have some funding to support Alessandro’s group in helping to engage the OSM “crowdmappers” and citizen science practitioners. This could align to their 2 year open government plan http://open.canada.ca/en/4plan/creating-canadas-4th-plan-open-government-2018-20. They are looking for workshop ideas for early May. Does anyone know of OSM expertise that we could tap into for a mapathon event in the Durham Region? Thanks. Jonathan From: talk-ca-requ...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 11:06 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Talk-ca Digest, Vol 119, Issue 32 Send Talk-ca mailing list submissions to talk-ca@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-ca-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-ca-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Talk-ca digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: using image recognition to create building foot prints. (Matthew Darwin) 2. Re: using image recognition to create building foot prints. (john whelan) 3. Re: using image recognition to create building foot prints. (Matthew Darwin) 4. Re: using image recognition to create building foot prints. (Matthew Darwin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:11:04 -0500 From: Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca> To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints. Message-ID: <50feb14c-0770-4e78-3363-daec8951a...@mdarwin.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" +1 Unless someone has lots of $$$ to throw at OSM work (which could then fund full time coordinators, trainers, lawyers, etc), the only way I see to coordinate is to approach it like how OSM in Canada was build up to now... distributed model with local groups doing what makes sense for their area. There is, of course, no way to map all buildings in Canada by 2020 this way. Still it is good to set aspirational goals... On 2018-01-29 08:57 PM, Pierre Béland wrote: > > Il faut une part de réalisme. Pour bien coordonner, il ne suffit pas > de créer une tâche et d'inviter à participer. Nous ne sommes pas une > communauté structurée au niveau national. Je comprends que diverses > universités s'intéressent au projet OSM et aimeraient initier leurs > étudiants à ce projet. La meilleure solution je pense c'est de se > mettre en contact avec la communauté OSM locale et s'assurer de bien > encadrer la formation et les premiers jours de participation à OSM. > > Les contributeurs sont davantage actifs dans leurs communautés > locales ou selon leur divers intérêts liés à leur travail ou loisir. > Personne n'est prêt à s'engager à coordonner un tel projet au niveau > national. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachments/20180129/207a7c29/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:17:51 -0500 From: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> To: Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca> Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints. Message-ID: <caj-ex1g64rx4uezhoja+yxhw+cpp1bh364dde++rsazddbi...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" and I think I agree with Pierre the best approach would be to do it a step at a time using experienced local resources. We do need to engage with high schools and the Universities but it is difficult with the resources available. There is some material available https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Education but it would need reviewing to see if it is relevant to what is required. We were exceptionally fortunate in Ottawa with the pilot and the resources we had available but even there I wasn't certain we would be able to pull it off. Cheerio John 2018-01-29 21:11 GMT-05:00 Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca>: > +1 > > Unless someone has lots of $$$ to throw at OSM work (which could then fund > full time coordinators, trainers, lawyers, etc), the only way I see to > coordinate is to approach it like how OSM in Canada was build up to now... > distributed model with local groups doing what makes sense for their > area. There is, of course, no way to map all buildings in Canada by 2020 > this way. Still it is good to set aspirational goals... > On 2018-01-29 08:57 PM, Pierre Béland wrote: > > > Il faut une part de réalisme. Pour bien coordonner, il ne suffit pas de > créer une tâche et d'inviter à participer. Nous ne sommes pas une > communauté structurée au niveau national. Je comprends que diverses > universités s'intéressent au projet OSM et aimeraient initier leurs > étudiants à ce projet. La meilleure solution je pense c'est de se mettre en > contact avec la communauté OSM locale et s'assurer de bien encadrer la > formation et les premiers jours de participation à OSM. > > Les contributeurs sont davantage actifs dans leurs communautés locales ou > selon leur divers intérêts liés à leur travail ou loisir. Personne n'est > prêt à s'engager à coordonner un tel projet au niveau national. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachments/20180129/243b4640/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:26:28 -0500 From: Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca> To: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints. Message-ID: <8c25ee0c-fa6e-c73a-61b6-04c8de4ba...@mdarwin.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" I will re-write the "project management" section of the wiki page to align with this discussion. On 2018-01-29 09:17 PM, john whelan wrote: > and I think I agree with Pierre the best approach would be to do it > a step at a time using experienced local resources. > > We do need to engage with high schools and the Universities but it > is difficult with the resources available. There is some material > available https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Education but it would > need reviewing to see if it is relevant to what is required. > > We were exceptionally fortunate in Ottawa with the pilot and the > resources we had available but even there I wasn't certain we would > be able to pull it off. > > Cheerio John > > > 2018-01-29 21:11 GMT-05:00 Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca > <mailto:matt...@mdarwin.ca>>: > > +1 > > Unless someone has lots of $$$ to throw at OSM work (which could > then fund full time coordinators, trainers, lawyers, etc), the > only way I see to coordinate is to approach it like how OSM in > Canada was build up to now... distributed model with local > groups doing what makes sense for their area. There is, of > course, no way to map all buildings in Canada by 2020 this way. > Still it is good to set aspirational goals... > > On 2018-01-29 08:57 PM, Pierre Béland wrote: >> >> Il faut une part de réalisme. Pour bien coordonner, il ne >> suffit pas de créer une tâche et d'inviter à participer. Nous >> ne sommes pas une communauté structurée au niveau national. Je >> comprends que diverses universités s'intéressent au projet OSM >> et aimeraient initier leurs étudiants à ce projet. La meilleure >> solution je pense c'est de se mettre en contact avec la >> communauté OSM locale et s'assurer de bien encadrer la >> formation et les premiers jours de participation à OSM. >> >> Les contributeurs sont davantage actifs dans leurs communautés >> locales ou selon leur divers intérêts liés à leur travail ou >> loisir. Personne n'est prêt à s'engager à coordonner un tel >> projet au niveau national. > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachments/20180129/5ce5c9b4/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 23:05:51 -0500 From: Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca> To: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints. Message-ID: <2eaa3362-59f9-068d-4b4e-7d5e59448...@mdarwin.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Ok, just I had to re-write more than just that one section to make it coherent. Hopefully the page has a bit more logical structure now. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020 Comments and edits welcome! On 2018-01-29 09:26 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > > I will re-write the "project management" section of the wiki page to > align with this discussion. > > On 2018-01-29 09:17 PM, john whelan wrote: >> and I think I agree with Pierre the best approach would be to do it >> a step at a time using experienced local resources. >> >> We do need to engage with high schools and the Universities but it >> is difficult with the resources available. There is some material >> available https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Education but it >> would need reviewing to see if it is relevant to what is required. >> >> We were exceptionally fortunate in Ottawa with the pilot and the >> resources we had available but even there I wasn't certain we would >> be able to pull it off. >> >> Cheerio John >> >> >> 2018-01-29 21:11 GMT-05:00 Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca >> <mailto:matt...@mdarwin.ca>>: >> >> +1 >> >> Unless someone has lots of $$$ to throw at OSM work (which >> could then fund full time coordinators, trainers, lawyers, >> etc), the only way I see to coordinate is to approach it like >> how OSM in Canada was build up to now... distributed model with >> local groups doing what makes sense for their area. There is, >> of course, no way to map all buildings in Canada by 2020 this >> way. Still it is good to set aspirational goals... >> >> On 2018-01-29 08:57 PM, Pierre Béland wrote: >>> >>> Il faut une part de réalisme. Pour bien coordonner, il ne >>> suffit pas de créer une tâche et d'inviter à participer. Nous >>> ne sommes pas une communauté structurée au niveau national. >>> Je comprends que diverses universités s'intéressent au projet >>> OSM et aimeraient initier leurs étudiants à ce projet. La >>> meilleure solution je pense c'est de se mettre en contact avec >>> la communauté OSM locale et s'assurer de bien encadrer la >>> formation et les premiers jours de participation à OSM. >>> >>> Les contributeurs sont davantage actifs dans leurs communautés >>> locales ou selon leur divers intérêts liés à leur travail ou >>> loisir. Personne n'est prêt à s'engager à coordonner un tel >>> projet au niveau national. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachments/20180129/f96d33ab/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ------------------------------ End of Talk-ca Digest, Vol 119, Issue 32 ****************************************
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