Bringing building outline Open Data into OSM has taken some years.  The
first problem to overcome was knowledge of OpenStreetMap by various levels
of government.  An early contact with the City of Ottawa was made by two
students aged around twelve who used OpenStreetMap to build an Open Data
App for a competition.  It didn't win first prize but it was the only one
that could be used off-line.  One is now a qualified schoolteacher by the
way so you can tell how long ago it was.

The head of OC Transpo was heard to say don't worry about the license we
want you to have the bus stops.

So the next step was the Open Data license.  Somehow or other I was invited
to some sort of round table with Treasury Board about Open Data and raised
the issue of license compatibility with OpenStreetMap.

It took them five years of consultations etc before the license was changed
to the 2.0 licence which both they and I thought was compatible.

It took about another year or so to have the City of Ottawa formally adopt
the new license.  Stats Canada played a role in persuading the City of
Ottawa to adopt the new license and to make a file of the building outlines
available to OSM.  Initially they weren't sure if they had one that could
be made available, the file for property taxes is held by a separate agency
in Ontario that is very jealous of its data.

The license was questioned and eventually made its way to the OSM Legal
Working Group where it was confirmed to be acceptable.  Going this route
can add considerable time to an import by the way so if you can use a
license that has already been approved its a lot faster.

For Ottawa we had the data from a single source, we had a local group of
mappers who knew the area and thoroughly discussed the import over coffee
for some months before deciding to do the import.  We were exceptionally
lucky in the skill set of the local mappers and their ability to work as a
team.

What was really interesting was what happened next and that was the
building outlines were enriched both with the type of building and
additional tags with address information, quite a few commercial buildings
had websites etc added.  The added tags was exactly what Stats had been
after.  Many of those tagging were mapping for the first time in response
to a Stats Can Web page.  So OSM gained some mappers.

Stats had funding for the pilot until March 31st.  Anything done after that
needed more funding or would be done in spare time if there was any.  Hence
the 2020 project.  The idea was that mapathons would accurately map
buildings across Canada.  It did generate a lot of interest from University
GIS departments and schools however and a number of government departments
and agencies expressed an interest in the data. A comment from Treasury
Board was about 60% of the government Open Data consumed was by other
government departments which surprised them.  This use of Open Data
consumption by other government departments is worth mentioning to
governments by the way.

" Yea, we had pretty good success having highschool students add in
attributes for buildings using walking maps!"

Unfortunately the accuracy of the buildings mapped in iD left something to
be desired.

So licensing is big.  Stats released some building outlines under the
Federal Government's 2.0 licence and that's what this import is all about.
How should it be handled?

Basically the problem becomes one of who are the local mappers since these
are the ones who say if an import should go ahead or not.  Canada is big.
Ottawa was small enough that issues could be talked through face to face.
We had a short discussion on talk-ca before starting the import and a
suggestion was made that a single import plan was the way to go.  The other
complicating factor here is a lot of people are very interested in using
the data one way or another.

The take away, have fun if you can.

Cheerio John

On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 13:55, Javier Carranza <javier.carra...@geocensos.com>
wrote:

> Hi there to all,
>
> Really interested in this thread as we are precisely a community in
> contact with National Statistics Offices (NSOs) like Stat Can and we see a
> growing interest in OSM's geodatabase.
>
> I can tell the interest will remain in the coming years and we need to be
> prepared. As NSOs are planning their censuses for 2020 (and onwards) like
> in the case of Uganda: https://opendri.org/uganda-open-mapping-for-resilience/
> , the geo open data concept will prevail.
>
> Other insights, anyone?
>
>
>
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