I'm glad to see Toronto getting involved once more.
The original idea for using Open Data to import buildings followed on
from a group of Toronto mappers who imported address information for a
new sub division that was not available in CANVEC from Stats Canada
after very carefully checking that the licenses etc aligned.
There was discussion in Talk-ca at the time before the import was done.
Cheerio John
Nate Wessel wrote on 2019-09-30 12:14 AM:
Hi Steve,
Thanks for posting the event! I just RSVPed.
I think a separate import event would probably be helpful - somewhere
with wifi and outlets for laptops, probably not a bar. Perhaps we can
book a meeting room at a public library or something?
I can poll some of the more active local editors to find a time that
works well for people. Once we have a time and place it would be good
to post something to the meetup group as well as here, Slack, etc.
If you or anyone else on the list feels like taking charge of this I'm
happy to defer - otherwise I may try to organize something in the next
month or so as I have time and energy.
Thanks,
Nate Wessel, PhD
Planner, Cartographer, Transport Nerd
NateWessel.com <http://www.natewessel.com>
On 2019-09-28 6:37 p.m., Steve Singer wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, Nate Wessel wrote:
I for one would be happy to support a local effort to import high
quality buildings in Toronto and/or the GTA. I
think if we can actually meet up face to face our discussions may
remain a bit more civil and productive. Hopefully
consensus will be a bit easier to achieve with smaller groups too!
I see that the OSM Toronto meetup doesn't have any upcoming
events... Would others in the GTA be interested in
planning a meet up to talk about a local import plan? Is anyone on
the list in charge of organizing these?
I am one of the organizers of the OSM Toronto meetup.
I've now posted the regular monthly mappy hour meetup for the Toronto
OSM group. I had been meaning to do this anyway.
I'm also happy to post a special event dedicated to discussing an
import in the GTA if people are interested.
Best,
Nate Wessel, PhD
Planner, Cartographer, Transport Nerd
NateWessel.com
On 2019-09-28 1:03 p.m., Jarek Piórkowski wrote:
Hi all,
To be a bit more positive:
If we want to get buildings on the map, but we can't get Canada-wide
data improved by Statcan to a standard acceptable to all mappers in
Canada, IMO the best bet will be to split this into much smaller
batches and support local mappers who would be interested in getting
the data in.
In my browsing of neis-one.org statistics for Canadian mappers and the
Notes active in Canada, I've seen active mappers and small communities
in at least Halifax, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, and Victoria
metros, and I might have missed some more. Many of them I have never
seen on the mailing list (which is a whole another issue), but
contacting them directly (via osm.org messages?), asking if they are
aware of other local mappers, if they would be interested in having
building data, if it is of acceptable standard to them, and if they
would be willing to help validate-and-upload the data (with help of
the central tooling) might get some success.
I hope that will go better than the previous attempt which could be
read - uncharitably - as a bunch of mailing list insiders throwing
federal data over the fence with little consultation.
It'll be a lot of work communicating and organizing. But getting
buildings is a lot of work, and if data producers can't do better,
whoever wants the buildings will have to do the work. Maybe with more
local support even the imports list will be more bearable.
Thanks,
--Jarek
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