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El jue., 17 ene. 2019 a las 9:53, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo (<msevill...@gmail.com>) escribió: > > Hola, > > Reboto este mail desde la lista británica que me ha resultado muy interesante > y que trata sobre el objetivo y los intereses de OSM al hilo de alguien que > se preguntaban cuales eran en concreto. Y la respuesta es que, en cierto > modo, no los hay. Cada uno hace lo que puede y le resulta interesante. No > somos Google o Bing con intereses centralizados y con objetivos lucrativos, > somos una comunidad que trabaja para intereses diversos y que a pesar del > aparente caos realiza un gran trabajo y, sobre todo tiene una importante > capacidad de actualización de datos. > > Alguna vez lo he comentado antes, creo que por la mensajería instantánea, que > lo que sucede en OSM respecto a otros proyectos centralizados, es muy similar > a la historia de "La catedral y el bazar" de E.S. Raymond [1] a cerca del > modo de proceder en el desarrollo del software libre frente al software > privativo. > > Saludos > > [1] https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_catedral_y_el_bazar > > -- > Miguel Sevilla-Callejo > Doctor en Geografía > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Gareth L <o...@live.co.uk> > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 00:55 > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] I have a philosophical question... > To: BD <dzide...@tlen.pl>, talk...@openstreetmap.org > <talk...@openstreetmap.org> > > > It’s easy to forget that OSM is a geographically referenced database of > objects. That just happens to be rendered as a map. If you want to know how > many post boxes have the George the 5th cypher, you can query the database to > find out. If you want to limit that by geographic bounds (say, a city’s > limits) then great, you can do that. > > > > Google maps things to keep people in their ecosystem and find more out about > where people want to go. They care most about points of interest so they can > advertise accordingly, or suggest to those points of interest/businesses that > they may want to pay google money so they get seen better than they would do > normally. It’s why cities have streetview data barely a year old, but country > roads are 7 years out of date. There’s little money in covering it. > > > > Roads/lane markings are getting a lot of attention because of assistive > driving system development causing a shedload of money being pumped into that > area of interest. > > > > I like adding to OSM as a pedestrian. It’s annoying to walk a circuitous > route to a shop only to find there’s an alleyway that will take you there in > 10% of the time. > > > > The freely available database allows interesting data to be presented with > low barrier to entry. As academia finds, it’s annoying to have to pay to view > a journal behind a paywall, when you dunno if it even has the info you want. > > > > A couple weaknesses for the main OSM ‘map’ I’ve found: > > Transport routes (particularly buses) change too frequently and would be > better as a separate service that is overlaid onto an OSM derived map. > > > > All the different features that people have as priorities to add are valid, > but it’s sometimes tricky to figure out the best order to add them in. Why > add all the stiles and gates to a field before you have the footpaths added? > Or adding bins and benches by roads before defining what kind of > pavement/sidewalk it has.* > > > > A couple Strengths of OSM: > > > > Updates are fast. Google/bing are less fast at updating areas, and especially > so if in a quiet region. OS only publish a new paper map when the old one has > gone out of print, meaning the Leicestershire map is more out of date than > the more popular peak district ones. > > > > If you want more info available on xyz feature.. you can add it, and > encourage others to do so also. > > > > > > So, back to the philosophical question: I’d say it’s all important. However, > the order that things are best added to the map could be helpful to know. Not > in a tollgate “don’t add z until qrstuvwxy has been added first” way, but > knowing what additional information is enabled to be added as a result of you > adding a certain feature. > > > > *sidewalks are such a nightmare in general in osm with no easy approach on > how to best add them, it seems. > > > > Not an easy question! > > Gareth > > > > From: BD > Sent: 13 January 2019 23:10 > To: talk...@openstreetmap.org > Subject: [Talk-GB] I have a philosophical question... > > > > Hi All, > > > > I do make my little contribution to the effort of OSM. Recently I added some > data to Mapillary and consider adding more (for the use of other mappers). > > > > After reading someone's OSM profile I started to think and now have some > doubts... We (mappers) are concentrating on various areas of the map. Some > are dedicated to buildings, some to geographical features others add > businesses etc. Can someone explain what is the aim of OSM, are we trying to > build a map better than Bing and Google (in towns and cities) or are we > planning to create a useful tool for tourists (with paths, places of > interests)? > > > > What is the aim of OSM, what should we concentrate on? > > Should we map roads for sat-nav or buildings for urban area accuracy? Paths > and tourists attractions or schools and electric cars charging points? > > > > many thanks, > > dzidek23 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > talk...@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > _______________________________________________ > Talk-es mailing list > Talk-es@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Saludos Jesús Mª Armentia _______________________________________________ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
