Hi Gregory, I've added to a suggestion here https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_quarterly_project_ideas#Detailed_mapping_of_railway_and_bus_stations .
I think it would be great to focus on public transport (UK wide). I'm most familiar with London, but e.g. the wheelmap https://wheelmap.org/en/map#/?categories=public_transfer&lat=51.52650134932504&lon=-0.12707233428955078&zoom=14 has a lot of grey on it. Another example: fetching line-runs for tube lines doesn't really result in usable information: http://overpass-api.de/api/sketch-line?ref=Central&network=London+Underground >From a "mapping for the map" perspective, the lines look OK, but in terms of the actual data, there's a lot left to be done. Sorry that this is London-centric - that's just my experience. Similar issues may well exist elsewhere too! How do you normally run these campaigns? How do you get people involved? Bjoern On 9 May 2017 at 09:00, Gregory <nomoregra...@googlemail.com> wrote: > For UK project ideas see http://wiki.openstreetmap. > org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Project > > There's benefits to being more local than the UK. You can pick a project > that works better, or UK-wide can be inspired by a local challenge that > went well. > Please consider working insync too, it can be encouraging to be part of > the bigger picture that makes OSM work. I.e. we'll fix our patch, while > they improve their patch. > Discuss on talk-gb when there's a project/challenge that you think will > work further afield. > > Also, I'm really glad to see you trying a new format. I do miss being able > to join you all in London. > > From way up North, > Gregory (LivingWithDragons). > > On 9 May 2017 8:30 a.m., "Stuart Reynolds" <stuart@travelinesoutheast. > org.uk> wrote: > >> Yes. >> >> For info, stations are regarded as “national” and so have their own 910 >> prefix. So 9100LHONSEA is Leigh-on-sea (OK, it’s not in London but that’s >> the one I know). The alpha code on the end is a match to the rail industry >> TIPLOC codes, which throws up some oddities (such as London Victoria and >> London Bridge having two TIPLOCs each, and Clapham Junction having four). >> >> Metro stations are also regarded as national, and so have 940 prefixes. >> In the cases I mentioned before, 9400ZZLUBNK is Bank, and 9400ZZLUTWH is >> Tower Hill. In both rail and metro cases, these codes represent the entire >> station. >> >> Then, each rail station or metro station has one or more entrances. >> These, for historical reasons, are always defined locally and have local >> codes. So they have the local prefix (490 for London) instead of the >> national prefix, but use the same identifier for the station. There is then >> a numbered suffix to distinguish between different entrances, although Bank >> has so many that it needs alpha as well. >> >> So: >> >> - 4900ZZLUBNK7 is Bank Station, Entrance 9, on the corner of >> Threadneedle Street (there isn’t necessarily any direct correlation >> between >> the suffix and the entrance number) >> - 4900ZZLUOXC7 is Oxford Circus, Entrance 7, on Argyll Street >> - etc >> >> >> The final oddity is that there is a hierarchy. So rail stations can >> contain metro stations, but not the other way around. But each different >> entity is expected to have its own entrances. So at Blackfriars, for >> example, the rail station has two entrances, north and south, and the >> nominal “entrance” to the underground is actually set on the gateline >> inside the station building. >> >> So there are some things to be aware of, but positionally the entrances >> are all in the right places (more or less) and you can get a “big bang” >> from the NaPTAN data even if you later on wish to refine the entrances by >> survey. >> >> Regards, >> Stuart Reynolds >> for traveline south east & anglia >> >> >> >> On 9 May 2017, at 07:14, Andrew Hain <andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> >> Does it include stations belonging to Network Rail? >> >> -- >> Andrew >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Stuart Reynolds <stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk> >> *Sent:* 08 May 2017 23:44:56 >> *To:* Derick Rethans >> *Cc:* Bjoern Hassler; talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org; osm-gb >> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-london] New OSM London Meetup - Invite >> >> Hi All, >> >> For reference, virtually all of the entrances are contained within the >> London NaPTAN data (https://data.gov.uk/dataset/naptan) which is the >> data that begins with the prefix 4900. The tube entrances all begin >> 4909ZZLU followed by a three letter code for the station plus a digit to >> distinguish between different entrances. For example, 4909ZZLUBNK0 would be >> an entrance to Bank, while 4900ZZLUTWH0 would be Tower Hill. >> >> While these do not give you accessibility information, they are all >> maintained by TfL and should give you accurate positional information. >> >> Regards >> Stuart >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 8 May 2017, at 21:02, Derick Rethans <o...@derickrethans.nl> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I think this is a good idea. We have something UK wide, but doing it a >> local way makes a lot of sense (and easier to complete). Happy to do >> this "fix the tube network" thing over a few weekends (After the General >> Election that is). >> >> cheers, >> Derick >> >> On Thu, 4 May 2017, Bjoern Hassler wrote: >> >> Dear Grant, dear all, >> >> >> thanks for putting on the meeting, and thanks for the sponsored pizza! >> Good >> >> meeting last night, and god to have met you all. >> >> >> Following up on the "Missing Maps London" idea, I thought we could may do >> >> some "map challenges" that look at specific things that need work. It >> might >> >> be a nice community building activity, and provide some continuity between >> >> meetings? >> >> >> As an experiment, I've formulated one such challenges here >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London_public_transport_ >> tagging_scheme/Map_Challenges >> >> and added images / interactive maps / help for new mappers. >> >> >> See what you think and let me know whether there's interest. Results could >> >> be announced at the next meeting? >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Bjoern >> >> >> >> On 30 April 2017 at 17:30, Grant Slater <openstreet...@firefishy.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> We trying a new format OpenStreetMap evening meetup in London this >> >> Wednesday 3rd May 2017... We'd love for you to come along: >> >> >> https://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Q-A-Meetup/events/239366249/ >> >> >> New to OpenStreetMap and want to learn more or need some help getting >> >> started? Already mapping or using OSM and have any Questions or >> >> Challenges or want to see what others are up to? This is the event for >> >> you. >> >> >> We already have 3 great speakers lined up for the evening: >> >> >> * Andy Allan - OpenCycleMap / Thunderforest >> >> * Astrid Thorseth - Missing Maps >> >> * Derick Rethans - London Mapper >> >> >> We have a great venue (bias, I work there), there will be pizza and >> >> soft drinks provided. >> >> >> I'd love to hear any suggestions on how we could improve the event or >> >> what works elsewhere. >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Grant >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Talk-gb-london mailing list >> >> Talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-london >> >> >> >> >> -- >> https://derickrethans.nl | https://xdebug.org | https://dram.io >> Like Xdebug? 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