On 3 February 2011 14:32, Gregory <nomoregra...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I'm upset that the blue(95%+) area in the North East turns out to be > Darlington, which I believe is tracers that started OS once it was > available. > I've used the OS Locator tool around Durham, mainly in JOSM, to get towards > that 95%, and I turned a bit addicted. It makes me worried that I might go > beyond reasonable edits(country roads with no signs, broken signs, my own > mistakes/omissions, etc) and just stay at home in my arm chair (it's been > cold outside). One village I know isn't done, so it's reminded me to go out > and do that. I much rather prefer to create roads than to adjust their > locations, so I think it's better I start with my GPS trace rather than OS > Locator. > > Peter, I know the ITO locator layer only shows missing names and that > you're not just checking name=* (if the OS has a different name for some > reason). What is the list of other name tags that get used? > name, not:name, alt:name name:en, name"{lang} and possiby a few more. Peter > > Gregory. > > > On 3 February 2011 14:08, Matt Amos <zerebub...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Ed Avis <e...@waniasset.com> wrote: >> > Dair Grant <dair@...> writes: >> > >> >>> There is suggestion raised by a number of people, but refuted by >> others that >> >>> imports reduce the number of contributors. >> >> >> >>It has been denied, not refuted. I think the closest there is to real >> data >> >>on the effect is: >> >> >> >>< >> http://www.asklater.com/matt/wordpress/2009/09/imports-and-the-community-ii >> > >> > >> > We do also have real data on the effect of not doing imports - the towns >> which >> > are almost completely unmapped. While importing data from OS may not be >> ideal, >> > doing nothing and waiting for somebody to go and map it doesn't seem >> like a >> > successful strategy either, if the past five years are a guide. >> > >> > For prosperous city areas there is no difficulty finding a local mapper >> who will >> > take on a new hobby to get away from the computer screen for a few >> hours. But >> > OSM has a real coverage gap in socially disadvantaged areas (Fake SteveC >> has a >> > pithier name for them). But we want a complete map and not just a map >> of where >> > the typical OSM contributor lives. If using some of the work already >> done by >> > the Ordnance Survey helps us get there, that has to be a good thing. >> >> my experience of the OS data traced into my local area is that it's >> been almost entirely inaccurate. if this is the case where a typical >> OSM contributor lives then i'd assume that people tracing over OS have >> introduced several hundred inaccurate features in London alone. >> perhaps if the people enamoured of tracing OS would organise a mapping >> party, or reach out to local community groups (people still live in >> socially disadvantaged areas, right?) then we could create a complete, >> living map, rather than a road-network-complete, dead one. >> >> cheers, >> >> matt >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> > > > > -- > Gregory > o...@livingwithdragons.com > http://www.livingwithdragons.com > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > >
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