On 10/03/2011 13:09, Phil Endecott wrote:
Ed Avis wrote:
These maps will probably become collector's items:
<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12684156>
What struck me was this quote:
"She also confirmed that some previously unnamed parts of the
loch had been named after cartographers and rangers who had
worked together on the mapping project.
"The spokeswoman explained names given after people was a
common map-making tradition"
Err... it is? OK, maybe in the 19th century if you were Robert
Fitzroy in Patagonia, but I don't imagine any cartographer today is
just making up names! (Hopefully not any OSM contributors or anyone
at the O.S., anyway...)
Phil
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Actually, it's pretty common : at least in Nature Reserves.
There is often a need to describe quite small features amongst the group
of people who record, conserve or otherwise make use of these places.
Sometimes these just receive a number, for instance 'compartment 73' (I
have a map of compartment numbers for Clumber Park, but it's an internal
National Trust document, they are used though
<http://www.fieldmycology.net/FRDBI/FRDBIrecord.asp?strVC=56&strName=Amanita+citrina+var.+citrina>),
or a letter ('G' Marsh, 'L' Meadow), but many are either epyonyms, or
twee names based on more charismatic members of the local fauna & flora.
I have added several of these 'made-up' names which are in common usage
around Attenborough Nature Reserve: the Delta
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/34332348>, Warbler Dell
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/30731745>, Dirty Island Bank
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/34332364>, Butterfly Patch
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/34332496> (in use since the
1960's), Corbett's Meadow
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/2877873> (a recent 'official'
coinage, in memory of Keith Corbett who was reserve manager for over 30
years until his death in 2007), which is also known locally as "The
Fisherman's Car Park", and "The Old Car Park", and Education Wood
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/29705417> (a recent unofficial
coinage, around 2005). As all the water bodies were created by gravel
working, their names have evolved recently too. I have only added those
which are in widespread usage: there are perhaps 50-odd names which were
coined in the '60s and '70s, mostly eponymic toponyms, but many never
caught on.
If I knew how, I'd add very local names to the swimming holes on Fairham
Brook by Keyworth Meadow NR: see Neil Pinder's article
<http://www.ourkeyworth.co.uk/meadow_history/Sailors_at_Fairham_Brook.shtml>on
the parish website.
Carsington Reservoir
<http://www.carsingtonbirdclub.co.uk/cbc/images/Carsington_Water_AerialCBC_master.jpg>
is another location where local birders have evolved a significant
number of toponyms.
If you check any of the Helm "Where to Watch Birds" regional guides I'm
sure you could find many more examples.
Of course the difference between these names is that in the main they
are naming new features or un-named features rather than coining new
names out of ignorance or exaggerated self-esteem which appears to be
the case at Loch Lomond.
Personally the ability to map these hyper-local toponyms is a very
attractive part of OSM. Of course, they need to be researched accurately
to ensure they are names which are used rather than 'book-names'.
Jerry
PS. Damn, this is beginning to look like another blog post!
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