I feel that you doubt the authenticity of my links as you have (maybe valid) 
grievances with an authors previous article (which I had to look up and was 
from 2005...when wikipedia was not established with the same level of 
confidence as it now)

To be honest I just picked an article at random.

However the articles are widely published, here are a couple more. (and plenty 
more if you bother to google them)

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57514677-93/corruption-in-wikiland-paid-pr-scandal-erupts-at-wikipedia/
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/19/new-wikipedia-scandal-uk-head-was-paid-to-promote-topics/

I think it is common knowledge, if you look around, what is occurred and since 
Roger Bamkin (forcibly?) resigned from his position with Wikipedia UK because 
of it says something.

Fair enough if you don't want to comment but I do feel aggrieved that you seem 
to think I am making it up as I have an axe to grind.

I am only bothered by those abusing their positions of power in the open 
community which I feel this is, or at least could be, the situation.

Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:41:25 +0100
From: nick_whitel...@yahoo.co.uk
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Gibraltar - Mapping Party?


I won't comment on the Gibraltar issue, but I do have to say I am highly 
suspect of the author of one of these articles. With articles such as 
"Wikipedia will fail in five years", and another "Wikipedia will fail in *four* 
years", he comes across as someone who, for one reason or another, has an axe 
to grind about open source projects.
        From: John Baker <rovas...@hotmail.com>
 To: ajrli...@gmail.com; nomoregra...@googlemail.com; chippy2...@gmail.com; 
sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk
 
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org 
 Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2012, 20:25
 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Gibraltar - Mapping Party?
   





Maybe no-one cares but Roger was paid ($80,000 apparently) to create articles 
and promote Gibraltar.

I see this is part of that. Promote Gibraltar by linking it to OSM, get on the 
OSM wiki pages, etc, etc.

Personally I do feel uneasy working on crowded sourced/open sourced projects on 
the request of others that are paid to do it.

I would have thought they could at least chip in for the flights, accomadation, 
etc

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericgoldman/2012/10/05/wikipedias-pay-for-play-scandal-highlights-wikipedias-vulnerabilities/
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/09/20/roger_bamkin_gibraltor_s_repeated_appearance_on_did_you_know_provkes_existential_crisis_for_wikipedia_.html

Just want to let people know the score beforehand.

From: ajrli...@gmail.com
To: nomoregra...@googlemail.com; chippy2...@gmail.com;
 sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:31:30 +0100
CC: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Gibraltar - Mapping Party?

Sounds like there is a the comings together of interest for perhaps early in 
the New Year? I’ll communicate that back to Roger and see where we go. I think 
he’s looking for OSM to organise themselves but I’ll get confirmation of what 
accommodation was on offer and what, if any, strings are attached with going at 
their request. CheersAndy From: Gregory [mailto:nomoregra...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 05 October 2012 13:26
To: Tim Waters
Cc: Andy Robinson; Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Gibraltar - Mapping Party? "basic accommodation in an 
old fort might be available free of charge"You've got me listening.But advance 
notice and doing it after
 Christmas is more likely to work for me. I presume this would end up as an 
Isle of Wight type exercise. Make a really good example(buildings & addressing) 
and cover the whole land in a short time. Then if we finished earlier than 
planned we could pop over to Spain for the remaining days and stay in 
Gibraltar, or if people planned to stay longer & arranged their own 
accommodation then Spain mapping could be planned too.
 -- 
Gregory
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