On 1 November 2014 12:50, Richard Fairhurst <rich...@systemed.net> wrote: > Mechanical edits stand or fall by their own merits. They cannot be ok-ed by > a vote. > > From the Automated Edits Code of Conduct: "We do not require or recommend a > formal vote, but if there is significant objection to your plan - and even > minorities may be significant! - then change it or drop it altogether." > > We historically have a low tolerance of mechanical edits and imports in the > UK; we prefer to make large-scale changes by hand. That is one of the > reasons why the OSM map of the UK is so good. A "come one, come all" vote on > the wiki can be trivially gerrymandered into supporting your proposals > without any proof of approval by the people who are affected by such a bulk > change, i.e. UK mappers. > > I am not sure where you got the idea of a "vote" for mechanical edits > (Wikipedia? wiki.osm.org tag pages?), but there is no precedent for it in > OSM and I would ask you to withdraw it.
Thank you for your comments, I understand your worries. I agree that voting is not the ultimate means of deciding whether a mechanical edit can go ahead or not - I'm sorry if my phrasing made you believe otherwise. The ultimate authority to decide whether an automatic edit is acceptable or not is the OSMF, who delegate this responsibility to the DWG. We (unfortunately) don't know exactly what criteria the DWG use. However, the DWG has repeatedly indicated that they strongly rely on the position of the community. To avoid a long trail of 'me too' reactions, as well as to avoid giving too much weight to the loudest voices, I think voting is the best way to determine the position of the community. The DWG has in the past never made decisions that go against the preference of the community. So I think it is likely that a decision taken with (significant) community support will also pass the scrutiny of the DWG. I agree however this is by no means a guarantee - especially in cases, like you point out, where there is strong evidence that the voting results do not reflect the opinions of the community. It is by the way not true that there is no precedent to use votes for mechanical edits - the retagging of musical instrument shops has been discussed in a similar way, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/Musical_instrument and the corresponding discussion on the tagging list. I hope this clarifies this procedure, and I also hope it at least takes part of your worries away. Kind regards, Matthijs Melissen _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb