Okay, borrowed a public keyboard for a ten minute ration so i'll try to outline a bit better.
Frederik Ramm had the perfect keyphrase when he described osm as a "community of makers". Authentic community meetups, for some value of authentic which means self-motivated and group-motivating obsessive-compulsives like our fine friend SK53. One problem in the US is there is little maker community due to the relative provision of state-supplied geodata. Look at the work of skquinn in Houston, Texas; a lone ranger slowly marking up the green space and historic built environment of a neighbourhood. His traces are overlaid by many visitors. He could easily build an osm maker community but who is going to take his hand and give him political courage? Meanwhile, your email took what seemed to me a slightly exploitative tone, and i don't mean to accuse you of anything here, but local quality can assure itself without overt explicit attempts at QA if the right people are doing the cultural driving, for which see Edinburgh and Glasgow as historical shining examples. So why address the maker community in that tone? One major problem i have with it is the ambiguity of "we". It sounds like a commercial effort driving along a passive community of contributors. Another is the "coders will step up"; engineers tend to drive themselves. The work on mechanical edit pipelining is a great example here. OSM is reaching a new sophistication and the ITO message does not reflect that to me personally. Apologies if i've been harsh here, pressed for time but wanted to say something at this point and not spam the thousands of people on the main osm list. Thanks for following this up with me, the snappy one-liner was emitted in poor circumstances, hope you understand. ::) Jo -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net On Sat, Jan 24, 2015, at 02:44 PM, Jo Walsh wrote: > i'm stuck on android keyboard, i'll try to explain when i find a > bigger one ::) > > > On January 24, 2015 12:39:52 PM GMT, Brian Prangle > <bpran...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I don't understand your terminology - if you could explain maybe I >> could adapt >> >> Regards >> >> Brian >> >> On 23 January 2015 at 17:22, Jo Walsh <metaz...@fastmail.net> wrote: >>> bit submissive-coercive in tone for me >>> >>> >>> On January 23, 2015 12:56:11 PM GMT, Brian Prangle >>> <bpran...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Thanks to ITOworld for fixing the problem with OSM Analysis - we >>>> now have some data to workon >>>> Well done to the folk in: >>>> City of Leicester, Bradford, Darlington, Redcar and Cleveland, >>>> Hartlepool, Shetland Islands, Sheffield, Berwick upon Tweed, >>>> Rutland and Guildford >>>> You are our leaders in our first quarterly project. >>>> How about Liverpool, Fife, Rotherham, and Manchester, all with over >>>> 200 road name errors, getting up amongst the leaders? >>>> A challenge to anyone with coding skills: >>>> *Can we take the data on which ITOworld work, from where the data shown above comes, to make it personal, so we can see who is doing the editing- similar to the daily "leader board" for Irish townlands[1]?* >>>> We have corrected 247 road names in the last week. So if we continue at this rate we should have completed another 2,223 by the end of the quarter. Let's see if we can build on this and make a bigger dent in the task. Otherwise we'll still have another year and a half to complete it - and that's without the OS Locator updates adding more corrections. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> >>>> Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Links: 1. http://www.townlands.ie/progress/activity/
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