On 09/08/17 23:40, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo wrote: > So I would like to translate here why I'm using a neutral approach for > the bilingual tagging in Wales: mainly because I'm following the wiki.
This is still a bit of a woolly area, but name= should only contain the information that is actually DISPLAYED locally. So if the street sign has only welsh or only english that is what appears in 'name'. This may also result in different tags on the same object where signage has different spellings or ordering, but someone looking for 'Fford-y-Mor Terrace Road' will have a good chance of seeing that on a sign. If the signs only have 'Fford-y-Mor' then one knows not to look for 'Terrace Road' ... In countries where different alphabets are used reading the signs can be challenging ;) This is then supported by name:en and name:cy along with additional name:* translations where people feel the need to generate them. Rendering a 'translated' map is then a matter of selecting the available name elements in the right order with 'name' being the final fallback, but 'Terrace Road' may be preferable for some translations even when the displayed name is only 'Fford-y-Mor' ... It depends just what the DATA is actually being used for? Making the DATA easy to use is the key element here not any particular rendering approach, but this has been messed up somewhat with there not being a consistent way to handle the evolution of the data. Many parts of Wales have been 'improving' the prominence of Welsh so what was only displayed in English now has the official Welsh signage as well. Using 'old_name' may be a way to record some of the changes, but we do need a much better defined way of handling the large amount of historic name changes that are currently 'lost' in the change logs! OHM needs to be feed automatically with data that the general consensus deems not appropriate to retain in OSM and the evolution of things like names are simply part of that. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
