Hi,
here's another OSM file generated from the Health Facilities Master list
http://www.guggis.ch/haiti/HaitiHealthFacilities_Master.osm
It includes more attributes than the list posted earlier. **Do not
import this file automatically, though**. We should first agree on the
set of OSM tags to be used and how the attributes in the master list are
mapped onto them.
What is the status of
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29
in particular in comparision with
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Draft_Ontology_for_healthcare_facilities
Which of the two tagging schemes is more stable?
Regards
Karl
Am 02.02.2010 11:05, schrieb nicolas chavent:
Jean Guilhem and all.
Just got back on-line: all the people who worked on the Health
Facility themes want this thematic layer in osm as compehrensive in
the most timely manner both:
- (i) in terms of coverage of geo features: this is addressed by the
data conflation work Kate Chapman and others including Sahan, US
Health Govt, WHO and WHO-PAHO were involved in and which lead to this
release by David.
Kate was working on a conflation of this superset with OSM and I think
we have to wait on her updating us on the status of the work to act
collectively in an efficient manner. She'll be up soon (living in US
Est Time).
- (ii) in terms of semantic interoperability: this is being addressed
through the data modeling and coordination work I an running on this
Health object with Kate Chapman, David Smith, Andrew Turner, WHO
experts and Emergency coordinators, GIS Coordinators from GIS-NGOs
deployed on the ground. I'll be integrating this last set of
attributes elements from PAHO to the data model and issue a new
version available on the wiki at
URL
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29
This has to be seen as the formulation of field requirements for
health facility geodata management in the perspective of OSM being
closely tied to this new phase of the humanitarian response with more
contents generated and shared from on the ground experts.
Sahana through the portal shared by David allows for online data entry
by Field Health practitioners.
Kate ensured a way to refresh OSM attributes with this field
contributed contents.
On top of that WHO and PAHO are considering using directly OSM Editors
to manage this data and relay on OSM DB for this operation at the
condition of relying on interoperable HFacs tags.
This is not small stuff and to allow this to happen again shortly,
let's wait for Kate to give us a status of her work and once the
attributes contents are on the wiki let's look at our tagging for this
Health Fac layer which should not be too difficult since the OSM
MapFeatures coverage of Health Care-related objects is limited.
URL
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dhospital
Hope this helps
Best
N
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <j...@arkemie.com
<mailto:j...@arkemie.com>> wrote:
Nicolas,
Can't we rely on healthC_ID for later incorporation of other tags
(which are mostly empty for now) ?
Isn't it a kind of emergency in itself to have the points, with
precise location, name, and unambiguous ID in the OSM data base ?
For use on the ground ?
"Any groups tracking health facilities should make sure to
incorporate this identifier to enable unambiguous sharing/merging
of data between groups."
Regards,
Jean-Guilhem
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Facilities Master List]
Date : Tue, 2 Feb 2010 09:33:09 +0100
De : nicolas chavent <nicolas.chav...@gmail.com>
<mailto:nicolas.chav...@gmail.com>
Pour : Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org>
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Hi there
Thanks Jean Guilhem for forwarding this post on this fundamental
asset, before embarking into any bulk upload and exposing
ourselves to double risk of duplication and data losses , we shall
hear back from Kate Chapman who had been involved in the work of
the group making this resource available and on conflating it with
the OSM data base.
We shall also look at the semantic aspect of this conflation work
and make sure the tags we will be setting for the HFacs
description besides the Unifying Unique ID set by the Ministère de
la Santé Publique et de la Population (MSPP) are interoperable
with the ones used in the World Health Organization (Geneva) and
PAHO (Pan American World Health Organization).
Since both organizations are envisaging to use the osm platform to
manage this Health Facility layer at the condition of relying on
interoperable tags.
I'll be reverting to the group soon with the "final" list of
proposed values, a first unfortunately incomplete set is readable
on the HT wiki
URL
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29
Later then
Best to all
N.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton
<j...@arkemie.com <mailto:j...@arkemie.com>> wrote:
Hi,
Could someone help automatically importing this list into OSM ?
(At least X, Y, name, healthC_ID, for 1267 points)
I could help to do some cleaning up with the points that might
already be present in OSM.
Thanks,
Jean-Guilhem
(knowing JOSM, but no automatic import tool (yet ?))
(jgc on irc #osm, #flossk)
-------- Message original --------
Sujet : [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health Facilities Master List
Date : Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:02:43 -0600
De : David William Bitner <bit...@dbspatial.com>
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The Haiti Health Facilities master list has now been made
publicly available at
http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/.
This represents a combination of many efforts over the past
two weeks.
Of particular note is the unique identifier HealthC_ID which
is based on the Ministère de la Santé Publique et de la
Population (MSPP) of Haiti identifiers expanded to allow for
temporary and transient health facilities. Any groups
tracking health facilities should make sure to incorporate
this identifier to enable unambiguous sharing/merging of data
between groups. This dataset is owned by the MSPP and is being
maintained by WHO/PAHO and the website allows for submitting
corrections and additions to keep the dataset up to date.
David
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On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton
<j...@arkemie.com <mailto:j...@arkemie.com>> wrote:
Hi,
Could someone help automatically importing this list into OSM ?
(At least X, Y, name, healthC_ID, for 1267 points)
I could help to do some cleaning up with the points that might
already be present in OSM.
Thanks,
Jean-Guilhem
(knowing JOSM, but no automatic import tool (yet ?))
(jgc on irc #osm, #flossk)
-------- Message original --------
Sujet : [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health Facilities Master List
Date : Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:02:43 -0600
De : David William Bitner <bit...@dbspatial.com>
<mailto:bit...@dbspatial.com>
Répondre à : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
<mailto:crisismapp...@googlegroups.com>
Pour : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
<mailto:crisismapp...@googlegroups.com>
The Haiti Health Facilities master list has now been made
publicly available at
http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/.
This represents a combination of many efforts over the past
two weeks.
Of particular note is the unique identifier HealthC_ID which
is based on the Ministère de la Santé Publique et de la
Population (MSPP) of Haiti identifiers expanded to allow for
temporary and transient health facilities. Any groups
tracking health facilities should make sure to incorporate
this identifier to enable unambiguous sharing/merging of data
between groups. This dataset is owned by the MSPP and is being
maintained by WHO/PAHO and the website allows for submitting
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David
Sahana Software Foundation
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