Hi Dermot, Yeah its a bit of a grey area alright :) I have sent a few emails to Dublin Bus networkdir...@dublinbus.ie and i...@dublinbus.ie but haven't received any reply. I have received a positive reply from the Department of Transport thats why I haven't really thought of the licensing issues. I could email the Department of Transport again to see where we stand?
I sent this to transport21i...@transport.ie Hi, I have been working on a Dublin Public Transport Route Planner. I have registered the name transportdublin.ie . Powered by neo4j <http://www.neo4j.org/> a nosql graph database with spatial features & offers implementations of common graph algorithms and google maps API v3 I have just uploaded the project to github and updated the wiki with screen shots and information http://wiki.github.com/paddydub/TransportDublin/ The graph database is populated with approx 15,000 bus stops and 150 bus routes and all timetables for most bus routes extracted from the Dublin Bus<http://www.dublinbus.ie/> website. I will be adding Luas and Dart Lines aswell. I still have a lot of work to do, if would like to help me out or have any suggestions or recommendations it would be greatly appreciated. Paddy Reply from transport21i...@transport.ie Hi Paddy Thanks for informing the Department of your current project work. For further information about new and emerging public transport communication initiatives, that are planned for the Greater Dublin Area, please contact the individual public transport agencies listed under 'Links' on the Transport 21 website [ http://www.transport21.ie/Links/Links/Navigation.html ]. In addition, check out the Transport for Dublin website [ http://www.transportfordublin.ie/ ] for information about each of the Transport 21 projects planned for the Dublin region and to view route maps of each project. Wishing you every success with your work. Transport Investment Division Department of Transport On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Dermot McNally <derm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Paddy, > > Sorry if this seems dismissive, but you must not under any > circumstances import these data into OSM. They are derived from a > Dublin Bus Database and Dublin Bus have not provided us with any > rights to reuse the information under a licence compatible with OSM. > It would be very convenient to do so - I for one have invested a lot > of effort collecting stop locations, names and reference numbers and > obtaining primary knowledge of bus routes. > > My suggestion if you wish to enable an import into OSM: > > Approach Dublin Bus and ask them for information on the terms under > which they are prepared to allow the use of this stop and route data. > I would advise you to avoid mentioning OSM, as we may, as a project, > have only one chance to make such an approach, and it would be a shame > for them to reply with a quick "no". I am working on some > demonstrations of the benefit of OSM for public transport and intend > to approach local representatives in order to maximise the chances of > a positive response. So please either ask a completely open question > about their terms of use or else describe the application you intend > to build. > > A warning, though - if you do outline your intentions, one possibility > is that they will tell you not to, assert their database rights and > threaten action if you proceed with its use. Think about how you would > proceed if this were the reply. > > Again, if Dublin Bus _do_ go on record that they are happy to consider > this stuff to be open data, you'll get plenty of help with an import. > > Proceed with caution ;) > Dermot > > On 7 September 2010 22:18, Paddy <paddyf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > I have been working on building a a neo4j & Google Maps based Public > > Transport Route Planner for Dublin, > > I'm still working on it I have a github project with a bit more info at: > > http://github.com/paddydub/TransportDublin > > > > I have extracted a lot of data from the Dublinbus.ie website to do the > > routeplanning, I have most Dublin Bus Stop data stored in a json file: > > http://github.com/downloads/paddydub/TransportDublin/stops.json > > > > I don't have much experience with openstreetmap, Any pointers on how I > could > > import this data to the openstreetmap project? > > > > Cheers > > Paddy > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-ie mailing list > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------- > Iren sind menschlich > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
