With regard to detached parts, the solution I used in Longford (for one townland example, Glebe near Ballymahon, and for a couple of civil parishes like Abbeylara and Agharra) was to treat the entire entity - including the detached part(s) as a single relation with >1 outer ring.
Regards, Paddy Matthews. On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote: > Brian, > > Don't worry about only doing 5, its as much about the quality as the > quantity. > > Think of it this way, if you kept up with 5 each time you sat down to do > these, and did 5 each day, with weekends off, in just over a year you would > be finished all of Westmeath (55 weeks to be exact based on 1,376 townlands > in Westmeath). The end result of your work over that period of time would > be a full set of townland boundaries for Westmeath, upon which civil > parishes, baronies, electoral districts, etc. could then be calculated and > mapped and anyone who wants the data, can then use it for free and without > having to pay for an extremely restrictive licence to the Ordance Survey, > who are the only other source of this data. Summed up, every bit counts :) > > I took a look at your sheet and see you've added 10 points. I hope you > don't mind me saying, but you really need 30-40 to ensure the sheet lines > up correct to the imagery & Openstreetmap data, however, I also reviewed > some of the OSM data under your sheet out of curiosity and some of it is > very badly misaligned against the imagery, most likely due to being > collected with GPS before we had imagery. It would be a good idea to > realign it before using it to rectify your sheet any further otherwise you > are rectifying against inaccurate data. As you do more townlands, you will > also find that a significant amount of roads are also used as part of the > boundaries so it is of benefit to have these all aligned correctly ahead of > time, before getting to the townland mapping itself otherwise the > boundaries may not be accurate. > > As for the sheet looking awful, I could not see any issue in terms of the > quality of the sheet, so I am assuming you mean the alignment maybe? If > I've misunderstood please feel free to say so. > > With regards to townlands with alternative names, alt_name would be > appropriate, added in the relations window, similar to how all the other > tags appear. > > For the "Part of.....", I'm honestly not sure, I have't come across it yet. > There was a good discussion in the chatroom this evening between a few of > us on the best route to take with this. I'm going to send a seperate mail > out on it to gather more opinions on it. Once something is nailed down, I > can add an additional video on this subject. > > You've raised 2 interesting issues here, between the alt_name and the "Part > of..." , both of which I've never come across so both I haven't covered in > the videos. Once I'm sure on the correct way to handle the "Part of..." > issue, I'll add an 8.2 video to the series covering these 2 topics > > Thanks, > Dave > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Brian, > > > > If you pop into the chatroom I can go through things with you now > > > > Click this link to open the chatroom in your browser - > > https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.oftc.net/osm-ie > > > > Dave > > > > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Brian Prangle <bpran...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> I've rectified my first sheet and added a whole FIVE townland > boundaries. > >> I > >> can see that this is going to take some time. I hope my enthusiasm keeps > >> up! > >> > >> A couple of questions- my rectified sheet (west from Mullingar) looks > >> awful at some zoom levels and perfect at others. What have I done wrong? > >> Where a townland is shown with alternative names do I put both in as > shown > >> on the original map or guess one for the name and the other as alt_name? > >> What about where the name is "Part of ..........."? > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Brian > >> > >> On 11 October 2014 13:00, <talk-ie-requ...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> > >> > Send Talk-ie mailing list submissions to > >> > talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > >> > > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> > talk-ie-requ...@openstreetmap.org > >> > > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at > >> > talk-ie-ow...@openstreetmap.org > >> > > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> > than "Re: Contents of Talk-ie digest..." > >> > > >> > > >> > Today's Topics: > >> > > >> > 1. Re: Westmeath townlands (Dave Corley) > >> > 2. Re: Westmeath townlands (Donal Diamond) > >> > > >> > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > Message: 1 > >> > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:13:57 +0100 > >> > From: Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> > >> > To: Discussion of Open Streetmap in Ireland > >> > <talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> > >> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Westmeath townlands > >> > Message-ID: > >> > < > >> > cahwd_agyp+qrfy8p_junow-4742ycf7chopqazym5dmf-oc...@mail.gmail.com> > >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> > > >> > Hi Brian, > >> > > >> > Someone should reply later letting you know when the sheets are up. > >> > > >> > You'll be able to find the direct links to them on mapcraft - > >> > http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/307 > >> > > >> > If you don't mind me asking, whats your OSM username? I'd like to > stick > >> > your name in the Westmeath section of here - > >> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ireland/Mapping_Townlands#Join_In > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Dave > >> > > >> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Brian Prangle <bpran...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hi > >> > > > >> > > I'd like to start mapping townlands in Westmeath so as a starter > >> could I > >> > > have the following map squares made available > >> > > > >> > > 28-25-NE > >> > > 28-25-NW > >> > > 28-25-SE > >> > > 28-25-SW > >> > > 23-23-NE > >> > > 23-23-NW > >> > > > >> > > Regards > >> > > > >> > > Brian > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Talk-ie mailing list > >> > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > >> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------ > >> > > >> > Message: 2 > >> > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 19:37:10 +0000 > >> > From: Donal Diamond <donal.diam...@gmail.com> > >> > To: Discussion of Open Streetmap in Ireland > >> > <talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> > >> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Westmeath townlands > >> > Message-ID: > >> > < > >> > cab4yhm7-xoz7t7e6xsqtcj1gfpga0bolppi2qco68j6fuew...@mail.gmail.com> > >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> > > >> > Think 28-25 should really be 23-25 > >> > > >> > Uploaded IRL-GSGS-3906-23-25 series: > >> > > >> > IRL-GSGS-3906-23-25-NE-Collinstown-GSI.tif > >> > IRL-GSGS-3906-23-25-NW-Multyfarnham.tif > >> > IRL-GSGS-3906-23-25-SE-Killucan-GSI.tif > >> > IRL-GSGS-3906-23-25-SW-Mullingar.tif > >> > > >> > Heres' link to find them on mapwarper: > >> > > >> > > >> > http://mapwarper.net/maps?field=title&query=IRL-GSGS-3906-23-25&show_warped=0 > >> > > >> > 4 sheets will keep you plenty busy. > >> > > >> > Good luck! > >> > > >> > D > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 10 October 2014 11:19, Brian Prangle <bpran...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hi > >> > > > >> > > I'd like to start mapping townlands in Westmeath so as a starter > >> could I > >> > > have the following map squares made available > >> > > > >> > > 28-25-NE > >> > > 28-25-NW > >> > > 28-25-SE > >> > > 28-25-SW > >> > > 23-23-NE > >> > > 23-23-NW > >> > > > >> > > Regards > >> > > > >> > > Brian > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Talk-ie mailing list > >> > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > >> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------ > >> > > >> > Subject: Digest Footer > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Talk-ie mailing list > >> > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------ > >> > > >> > End of Talk-ie Digest, Vol 65, Issue 8 > >> > ************************************** > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Talk-ie mailing list > >> Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
