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On 15 January 2015 at 12:05, Stephen Huggard <shugg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Can someone remove me from this... > On 15 Jan 2015 12:02, <talk-ie-requ...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> Send Talk-ie mailing list submissions to >> talk-ie@openstreetmap.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> talk-ie-requ...@openstreetmap.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> talk-ie-ow...@openstreetmap.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Talk-ie digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Open Data Ireland - Govt Survey on Datasets (Dave Corley) >> 2. Re: Open Data Ireland - Govt Survey on Datasets (Rory McCann) >> 3. Re: Meath field names (Rory McCann) >> 4. Re: Meath field names >> (Killyfole and District Development Assocation) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 15:52:58 +0000 >> From: Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> >> To: Discussion of Open Streetmap in Ireland >> <talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Open Data Ireland - Govt Survey on Datasets >> Message-ID: >> < >> cahwd_aem4p0xjrw2r5dp0aapiv_-nw4qj++lc7-qucche+g...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Folks, >> >> tl;dr - go to https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/OpenDataIreland and complete >> the survey to get the Irish govt to open up more geo data for us to use >> with open licences >> >> I want to make you aware of a survey being run by Dept. of Public >> Enterprise and Reform. For those not aware, it is this dept which is >> responsible for driving the open data process in govt. They have done some >> good work so far on data.gov.ie which has something like 500 datasets so >> far. Granted most are not compliant in formats or are not of any value, but >> it is a good start. >> >> Part of the next step is asking the public what data is considered high >> value as this is what they will focus on releasing next (where possible). >> With this is mind they are running at survey at >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/OpenDataIreland which I would like to ask >> as >> many of you as possible to complete. >> >> They will ask for personal details and I was a bit hesitant at first, but >> then realised the govt has all my personal details already. >> >> I was in the process of completing the survey and ranked geospatial data as >> my number 1 choice in question 3. In question 5 it asks you to list 5 >> datasets that you would consider high value. I put the following: >> >> * Full & accurate boundary data for all boundaries in Ireland (coastline, >> counties, townlands, towns, cities, etc) released as shapefiles >> * Full set of roads shapefile to include all associated attribute data >> (speed limit, road classification, name, reference number e.g. N17 etc) >> * Building footprint shapefile for all buildings in Ireland including >> related attribute data (building type (house, apartment etc), address, age >> built etc) >> * Shapefile of all historic monuments and site in Ireland including all >> related attribute data (name, feature type, age, etc) >> * Full release of Eircode post code data points for all of Ireland >> >> Feel free to copy or add your own >> >> The survey took about 10 mins to complete and only contains 12 questions in >> total so I would urge you all to take a few mins to complete it, you never >> know, it could lead to a load of OSi & other useful data being opened up >> that we can use >> >> Thanks, >> Dave >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:25:20 +0100 >> From: Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org> >> To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland <talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Open Data Ireland - Govt Survey on Datasets >> Message-ID: <54b6b490.6000...@technomancy.org> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> That's a great idea. I've filled it in there, and would hope that >> everyone will do it too. Like you I listed some ideal data sets. We'll >> see what happens. >> >> re: Historic Monuments, there are shapefiles available for the >> Archeological Survey of Ireland from the National Monuments Serice. You >> can download the shapefiles here >> http://www.archaeology.ie/archaeological-survey-ireland *but* the >> copyright is closed. Only non-commerical usage etc. >> >> Rory >> >> >> On 14/01/15 16:52, Dave Corley wrote: >> > Folks, >> > >> > tl;dr - go to https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/OpenDataIreland and >> > complete the survey to get the Irish govt to open up more geo data >> > for us to use with open licences >> > >> > I want to make you aware of a survey being run by Dept. of Public >> > Enterprise and Reform. For those not aware, it is this dept which >> > is responsible for driving the open data process in govt. They have >> > done some good work so far on data.gov.ie which has something like >> > 500 datasets so far. Granted most are not compliant in formats or >> > are not of any value, but it is a good start. >> > >> > Part of the next step is asking the public what data is considered >> > high value as this is what they will focus on releasing next (where >> > possible). With this is mind they are running at survey at >> > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/OpenDataIreland which I would like >> > to ask as many of you as possible to complete. >> > >> > They will ask for personal details and I was a bit hesitant at >> > first, but then realised the govt has all my personal details >> > already. >> > >> > I was in the process of completing the survey and ranked geospatial >> > data as my number 1 choice in question 3. In question 5 it asks you >> > to list 5 datasets that you would consider high value. I put the >> > following: >> > >> > * Full & accurate boundary data for all boundaries in Ireland >> > (coastline, counties, townlands, towns, cities, etc) released as >> > shapefiles * Full set of roads shapefile to include all associated >> > attribute data (speed limit, road classification, name, reference >> > number e.g. N17 etc) * Building footprint shapefile for all >> > buildings in Ireland including related attribute data (building >> > type (house, apartment etc), address, age built etc) * Shapefile of >> > all historic monuments and site in Ireland including all related >> > attribute data (name, feature type, age, etc) * Full release of >> > Eircode post code data points for all of Ireland >> > >> > Feel free to copy or add your own >> > >> > The survey took about 10 mins to complete and only contains 12 >> > questions in total so I would urge you all to take a few mins to >> > complete it, you never know, it could lead to a load of OSi & other >> > useful data being opened up that we can use >> > >> > Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________ >> > Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie >> > >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1 >> >> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUtrSPAAoJEOrWdmeZivv2i44H/3BMMn6UtouIf86iQXE3sl1K >> MQxlyDXDqckO3gKZbjN/SPf5wIpL+3YJxeiLnBrMM/RR/76K4hqgpyos8iIfrDPM >> lf+RXGqKg4MvW9tFGfiPRIf/i59+cd5mYiokiER7WqOpLjCMnm0X7WRgd99cmdWx >> 7+T4VqLxoXx7xGXeW11DOR3PuiiuxiYWrB6OjaRxTt9yn3GgnF67gG2g6nXAVDm4 >> qcnNunWI+BB3xNxyUlQEaOGA/Ml0vNmEBXeSPww6iSIhmz7i0M8DqKUZaU0XGpYJ >> cXtEdNqgvZmZZn9r8cxKYf2wqkBJMBZg9FsA4vtnRbRBylok4ksnB2JGL4bFU5k= >> =l4gS >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 20:48:53 +0100 >> From: Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org> >> To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland <talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meath field names >> Message-ID: <54b6c825.6020...@technomancy.org> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 04/01/15 15:37, Brian Prangle wrote: >> > I came across this project last week >> > http://www.meathfieldnames.com/ which is a voluntary effort >> > identifying field names. So far they've collected about 24,000. >> > Impressive >> > >> > Even more impressive is that their intractive map uses OSM >> > >> > Two things emerge >> > >> > 1.They're using OSM without attribution ( or it's so cleverly >> > hidden I couldn't find it) so someone needs to contact them to >> > correct this >> > >> > 2. Would it be useful to ask them if we could import their data? >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Brian >> >> Hi, >> >> Interesting find! And truly a pretty impressive undertaking. Mapping >> all the townlands in a county is hard, to go to the next level and add >> fields as well! And then to go even further and add in lots of >> metadata about the fields (names/owners/natural features), is >> certainly a very impressive feat! >> >> If you zoom in very carefully, you can see their townland borders >> don't quite match OSM's so it's not using OSM data for townlands. We >> only have a third of Meath covered anyway. Since they are only >> displaying their data on top of OSM, there is no licence issues. >> >> How they created it makes for interesting reading[1], they have mapped >> the townlands and fields from scratch from their own copies of the old >> maps: >> >> > it was decided to consult with various agencies to establish if >> > any of them might have data sets already available with fields in >> > Meath already digitised. The project consulted with Ordnance >> > Survey Ireland, The Property Registration Authority (formerly Land >> > Registry) and the Department of Agriculture. >> > >> > After considerable research, it was found that none of these >> > bodies had a suitable dataset that they were prepared to make >> > available to Meath Field Names Project. >> >> I wonder what was wrong with the OSi data? >> >> They then contracted Mallon Technologies to trace their old maps to >> get the vector townlands, and that was done in 1-2 months. Not bad! >> >> Nevertheless, we should definitely contact them and tell them about >> OSM, what we're doing, and see if they would be interested in sharing >> their data. Likewise Mallon Technologies. I can do that. >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> [1] http://www.meathfieldnames.com/index.php/database-and-mapping >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1 >> >> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUtsghAAoJEOrWdmeZivv2aqYH/0cTFa2sS5+JaqQaeE4xjYdq >> 5XGxdl7eHlGbNY/+MFId69XFJ4JFlF9U81g+hv9h/QbcphhB5k4xgLkUdNtOklmt >> A/H87KwduRmXO0kUPy8hM3W7KeIgW24LXKxRmVM9gzku4lqhAaL+7ofdUDMsZ8i8 >> r2NUO6iSxrMSAPoSEtkQVCXtNK+j4v2T58w7wC3oONt7lW2cgEO71CVz8vvJl9eD >> eLm0NM7uTqSDoIWTjs7h8dOqsjEeZC49h3qO+xXfLxo+Qg79mWcfhI03h87ZKpnD >> eBaP9OYjFHjn/jLNezJn92j06LTYotp4PVlJVaPRzQjViExYo1FZyONne8zaUxw= >> =FVsM >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 20:16:51 +0000 >> From: Killyfole and District Development Assocation >> <webmas...@killyfole.org.uk> >> To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland <talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meath field names >> Message-ID: <7380824.EX0xcAmJK5@p500> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Please report back on their response to your questions. I would be >> interested >> in doing something like this in Fermanagh, but have a few questions on how >> they collected the data from the public. I was thinking of approaching >> DARD >> to directly involve farmers, there might even be EU funding for this kind >> of >> historical data collection. >> >> Let us know how you get on! >> >> On Wednesday 14 Jan 2015 20:48:53 Rory McCann wrote: >> > On 04/01/15 15:37, Brian Prangle wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Interesting find! And truly a pretty impressive undertaking. Mapping >> > all the townlands in a county is hard, to go to the next level and add >> > fields as well! And then to go even further and add in lots of >> > metadata about the fields (names/owners/natural features), is >> > certainly a very impressive feat! >> > >> > If you zoom in very carefully, you can see their townland borders >> > don't quite match OSM's so it's not using OSM data for townlands. We >> > only have a third of Meath covered anyway. Since they are only >> > displaying their data on top of OSM, there is no licence issues. >> > >> > How they created it makes for interesting reading[1], they have mapped >> > the townlands and fields from scratch from their own copies of the old >> > >> > maps: >> > > it was decided to consult with various agencies to establish if >> > > any of them might have data sets already available with fields in >> > > Meath already digitised. The project consulted with Ordnance >> > > Survey Ireland, The Property Registration Authority (formerly Land >> > > Registry) and the Department of Agriculture. >> > > >> > > After considerable research, it was found that none of these >> > > bodies had a suitable dataset that they were prepared to make >> > > available to Meath Field Names Project. >> > >> > I wonder what was wrong with the OSi data? >> > >> > They then contracted Mallon Technologies to trace their old maps to >> > get the vector townlands, and that was done in 1-2 months. Not bad! >> > >> > Nevertheless, we should definitely contact them and tell them about >> > OSM, what we're doing, and see if they would be interested in sharing >> > their data. Likewise Mallon Technologies. I can do that. >> > >> > >> > Rory >> > >> > >> > [1] http://www.meathfieldnames.com/index.php/database-and-mapping >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Talk-ie mailing list >> > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ie mailing list >> Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Talk-ie Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 >> ************************************** >> > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie