Hi all

I understand that each (part) Townland is in fact a separate
townland/administrative area.

I mapped  Graiguealug first as one composite and on advice from a map
librarian i was strongly encouraged to show it as three distinct townlands.
The history shows I followed this advise in two stages.
I had on loan to me at the time a paper 1901 census index which bore this
out.

The two  townlands of Tara Hill in wexford were distinct in the 1901 index
but are one in GSGS. I visited the valuation office and found the boundary
commissioner had altered "them to it" in 1906. I found a man who owned two
plots of land and subseqeuntly owned one of the total acerage in the
valuation books.

I favour keeping them separate .


On 29 May 2016 at 10:39, Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org> wrote:

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> Hi all,
>
> A while ago I mentioned a possible problem with the Logainm data
> import, where 2+ townlands were getting the same logainm reference[1].
> Upon closer investigation, I don't think this is a bug with the import
> process, but a question of "Is a townland is one townland or many
> townlands?".
>
> Consider Graiguealug townland in Carlow. It's in OSM as 3 different
> townlands: OSM ids https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2196774
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2274862
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2274863 all touching each
> other. Each is in a different civil parish[2].
>
> However Logainm only has one entry http://www.logainm.ie/en/3531 which
> is in 3 different civil parishes. Logainm allows one townland to be in
> more than one CP. If you look at the GSGS map, only one townland is
> shown on the map, and the total area (~400 acres) is similar to the
> total off the 3 townlands in OSM.
>
> It looks like one townlands was split into 3 townlands so that each
> townland would be in one and only one CP.
>
> However I don't think this is the right approach. I think the OSM
> philosophy of "One Feature, One OSM Element"[3] should apply, and that
> those 3 townlands should be merged into 1. The CP boundaries should
> physically stay where they are, but they will not line up with a
> townland boundary. I seen other examples of townlands crossing CP
> boundaries and have mapped them as one townland, with a CP border
> going through the middle.
>
> I'm tempted to merge townlands like this into one townland. What do
> people think?
>
> Rory
>
> [1]
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ie/2016-March/001499.html
> [2] Townlands.ie:
> https://www.townlands.ie/carlow/forth/templepeter/templepeter/graiguealug/
>
> https://www.townlands.ie/carlow/forth/tullowmagimma/templepeter/graiguealug/
> https://www.townlands.ie/carlow/forth/nurney/templepeter/graiguealug/
> [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element
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