28 Apr 2019, 18:23 by webmas...@killyfole.org.uk:

> they are constantly being vandalised, mainly by inexperienced 
> users not understanding the relations and removing/amending ways without also 
> fixing the relations.
>
I would use other word like "broken", "vandalised" implies that it is malicious.

> I was wondering if there was a way to better educate new users in how 
> relations work
>
For start - how iD and JOSM react to user breaking relations in a typical
way? Is it safe to assume that cycling route that was continuous before edit
should almost certainly stay continuous after the edit?

If iD/JOSM validators are currently not spotting such mistakes - it may be 
useful to
suggest adding such detection.

The same with https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmose 
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmose> and other QA

Maybe iD/JOSMĀ  editors can start displaying such routes in a default map 
rendering
to visually indicate what edit is doing.

If you want to do that but unsure how to start - I can write more how it can be 
done.

> Maybe this could be automated to ping the IRC channel 
> when a relation is broken?
>
In principle it is possible, but I would start from improving existing QA tools
rather than making a new one (I made mistake with creating one[1] that is 
unused because
we have no shortage of QA tools but shortage of mappers interested in fixing 
detected
issues)

[1] https://matkoniecz.github.io/OSM-wikipedia-tag-validator-reports/

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