On 01/12/2014 02:56 PM, Satoshi IIDA wrote: > > Thank you, Paul. > > IMHO, "Droid Sans Fallback" is better. > but I don't know detailed (well known) errors of between CJK fonts. >
I agree. To my eyes, Droid Sans Fallback is better. Some of the smaller pieces of kanji are easier to read using it. -douglas > > Talk-ja guys > Please feel free to comment on here. > (Using Japanese language is OK :) ) > > Summarized translation of Paul's messages are following. > > == > To Talk-ja のかたがた > > - 現在OSM.orgでは、DejaVu fontに含まれていない日本語・中国語・韓国語の > 文字を表示するために、Unifont が使用されています > - Unifontはすべての文字をカバーするために作られていますが、見た目はあ > まり良くありません > > - 現在、Droid Sans Fallbackという、Android用に作られたフリーフォントを > 見つけています > - "Unifont" と "Droid Sans Fallback"のどちらのほうがよいか、フィード > バックがほしいと思っています > - 表示テスト用のサーバを用意したので、見た目をチェックできます > http://tile.paulnorman.ca/demo/fonts.html > - あまり強力なサーバではないので、表示に時間がかかります。 > - 画面右上から、タイルの変更が可能です。 > - "openstreetmap.org <http://openstreetmap.org>" = Unifont 、 "Droid > Fallback" = Droid Sans になります。 > - Paulさん自身はこれらの文字を読めないので、みなさんの手を貸していただ > きたい。 > > == > いいだ個人的としてはDroidのほうが綺麗だと思うのですが、 > 1つのコードで複数の文字に対応しているものがあった気がしていて(うろ覚え)、 > その文字がどういう表示になるかを気にしています。 > (中国語も、繁體字(zh-tw)と簡体字(zh-cn)がありますし) > > 「こちらのフォントのほうが良い」あるいは「もっとよいフォントがある」な > どの情報をお持ちの方は教えていただけると嬉しいです > 返信は日本語でも大丈夫です。 > > > > > 2014/1/12 Paul Norman <penor...@mac.com <mailto:penor...@mac.com>> > > Right now the main OpenStreetMap.org stylesheet uses Unifont as a > fallback font to render Chinese, Japanese and Korean (CJK) characters, > as well as any other characters not present in the DejaVu font. > Unifont > is mainly designed to support all characters, and is not designed to > look good. > > I'm looking at Droid Sans Fallback, a free font developed for Android, > and evaluating if it would be a better fallback font than Unifont. > Because I don't read Chinese, Japanese or Korean, I could use help. > > I have prepared a demo at > http://tile.paulnorman.ca/demo/fonts.html with > three layers: conventional OSM.org, tiles without any fallback > font, and > tiles using Droid Fallback as a fallback font. > > What I would like is for people to look at the difference between the > conventional OSM.org and Droid Fallback tiles and see which is > easier to > read for the CJK glyphs. The tiles without any fallback font can > be used > to find areas where DejaVu doesn't have glyphs and the fallback > font is > being used. > > Some examples > > Japanese cities: > http://tile.paulnorman.ca/demo/fonts.html#9/35.443/138.247 > > Japanese train stations: > http://tile.paulnorman.ca/demo/fonts.html#16/36.415/139.325 > > Korean cities: > http://tile.paulnorman.ca/demo/fonts.html#9/37.25/127.22 > > Chinese tourist attraction: > http://tile.paulnorman.ca/demo/fonts.html#15/39.94/116.48 > > Please keep in mind that > > - My server is not nearly as powerful as tile.osm.org > <http://tile.osm.org>, so renders slower > and has less cached data > - Only Asia is loaded on my server > - The data is a couple of days old and isn't being updated > > I would like some feedback on if Unifont or Droid Sans Fallback looks > better. Please keep in mind that I don't read the languages being > rendered. > > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > t...@openstreetmap.org <mailto:t...@openstreetmap.org> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > > > -- > Satoshi IIDA > mail: nyamp...@gmail.com <mailto:nyamp...@gmail.com> > twitter: @nyampire > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ja mailing list > Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
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