Hello all,

Can we agree on the conventions for the values of the admin_level tag for
boundary:administrative?

Here's one suggestion:

2 - national boundary (mostly applicable to the sea border with Malaysia
4 - provinces
6 - cities and municipalities
8 - districts (like in Manila, Iloilo City)
9 - zone (like in Manila, Pasay, Caloocan)
10 - barangay
12 - sitio/purok

I don't think we really need to tag the regions since the provinces are the
primary subdivisions of the Philippines and regions are mostly for grouping
purposes.

And I don't think we need to tag the congressional districts yet. Besides, I
think those boundaries fall under a different value for the boundary tag.
Like boundary:legislative?

Also, let's not mark boundaries on open sea just yet (except for the
international boundary).

Regards,
Eugene



On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:14 PM, maning sambale
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Ian,
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:02 PM, ian lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Thanks for adding provincial boundaries (in advance).
> I hope I can upload them in time for the render this week :)
>
> >However, I placed (or
> > marked) some of them - in the north eastern portion of Laguna province
>
> I'll look into these before uploading what I made of provincial boundaries.
>
> > (incomplete) and in the entire province of Guimaras. Right now, certain
> > portions of Makati are being "subdivided" - The barangay boundaries of
> > Urdaneta & Salcedo. From what I know, Barangay Salcedo doesn't exist -
> > Salcedo Village is part of Barangay Bel-Air - and Barangay Urdaneta
> exists
> > and its frontier[s] (that were featured since last week in OpenStreetMap)
> > are accurate - according to Wikipedia.
> Please proceed as you see fit.  I plan to add the QC brgy boundaries
> in time (or until someone beats me to it).
>
> > Regarding the Higways portion, the Maharlika Highway (or the
> Pan-Philippine
> > Highway) is part of the Asian Highways Network as AH26. Should we tag the
> > entire stretch of the said highway with the tag ref=AH26 ?
>
> Any reference to this?
>
> As we all know, most political boundaries in the Philippines is pretty
> much contested by neighboring provinces, so I will have to say that my
> upcoming upload is still very much a work in progress (as most of the
> Phils. political boundaries are :))) )
>
> Keep on mapping!  I have to say were getting a lot of progress this year!
>
> cheers,
> maning
> > I do appreciate your opinions. Thank you for your time.
> >
> > --- On Mon, 10/27/08, maning sambale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > From: maning sambale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] National Borders & Highways
> > To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
> > Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 10:19 AM
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm planning to add provincial boundaries for the Philippines
> > following IanLopez' recommendation:
> > tag:
> > boundary=administrative
> > admin_level=4
> >> Level 4 = borders of the various provinces & Metro Manila
> >
> > I will clean-up the boundaries and upload them within the week.  I
> > will also just add internal boundaries, meaning boundaries within
> > Islands like in Mindanao.  I will not add boundaries of island
> > provinces like Palawan or Mindoro.
> >
> > Any comments?
> >
> > cheers,
> > maning
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:55 AM, maning
> >  sambale
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I just found out today that ianlopez added administrative boundaries
> >> around Metro Manila.  Great work Ian!
> >> May I ask where did you get the boundaries (source reference)?
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> maning
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:39 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What was being done before, and how is this new tagging better?
> >>>
> >>> - paolo
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of maning sambale
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:20 AM
> >>> To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] National Borders & Highways
> >>>
> >>> I suggest we "reformulate" our Highways & Boundaries
> > tagging. For
> >  the
> >>> former, please discuss further since I do not know much of the Road
> > &
> >>> Highway classifications. For the latter, I will suggest this:
> >>>
> >>> Yes, that would be cool.  The admin boundaries tag is already in map
> >>> features but may be "reformulated" on the Philippine
> > context. Feel
> >>> free to discuss and I suggest we make a wiki page for this.
> >>>
> >>> Admin level 2 = The border of the Philipines (including the Spratlys
> >>> [the parts that the Philippines claim, per PD 1596] & the
> > Scarborough
> >>> (?) Shoal; excluding Sabah & Palmas islands)
> >>> Level 4 = borders of the various provinces & Metro Manila
> >>> Level 6 = Congressional districts
> >>> Level 8 = Various Cities & Towns in the Philippines.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:40 PM, discussions on the Philippines
> >>>
> >  <talk-ph@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Strange mailing list.  Gives no indication of who is sending the
> > email.  Now
> >>>> we have got to guess who sent the email below.
> >>> Sorry, I've changed it now.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> - paolo
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > discussions on the
> >>>> Philippines
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:05 PM
> >>>> To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
> >>>> Subject: [talk-ph] National Borders & Highways
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I suggest we "reformulate" our Highways & Boundaries
> > tagging. For the
> >>>> former, please discuss
> >  further since I do not know much of the
> > Road &
> >>>> Highway classifications. For the latter, I will suggest this:
> >>>>
> >>>> Admin level 2 = The border of the Philipines (including the
> > Spratlys [the
> >>>> parts that the Philippines claim, per PD 1596] & the
> > Scarborough (?) Shoal;
> >>>> excluding Sabah & Palmas islands)
> >>>> Level 4 = borders of the various provinces & Metro Manila
> >>>> Level 6 = Congressional districts
> >>>> Level 8 = Various Cities & Towns in the Philippines.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm planing to buy a GPS device or possibly ask for one from
> > fellow OSM
> >>>> contributors in the Philippines, since I'll join the Milo
> > Marathon, which
> >>>> will be held in San Pablo City on August 24. It is a big
> > opportunity ro map
> >>>> a good portion of San Pablo City. Please email me personally
> >  if
> > you're
> >>>> interested in lending/borrowing me the GPS device, even for a
> > week. Thanks
> >>>> in advace.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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