Eugene / seav,

Yes, the southern part of Davao City and the northern part of Davao del
Sur is the boundary in the province of Sta. Cruz. If you notice here
http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=6.9742&lon=125.3851&zoom=12&layers=B000FTF
there is no boundary between Sta. Cruz and Davao City yet, I am looking
for the boundary data and if somebody has it, it will be great.

If voting will be needed regarding your proposal, you have my vote.

murlwe

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com]
>Sent: 5/1/2009 9:20:55 AM
>To: mur...@mail2engineer.com
>Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>Subject: Re: Chartered Cities
>
>Hi Marloue,
>
>Great that you brought this topic up since I mentioned in my old email
the
>problem of representing chartered and independent cities.. I'll paste
my
>original piece here for reference:
>
>
>III. Highly-urbanized Cities and Independent Component Cities
>
>How do we handle the case of Highly-urbanized Cities and Independent
Component
>Cities? boundary=administrative implies an administration delineation
of sorts
>(e.g., the area delineated by the boundaries of Rizal province is under
the
>jurisdiction of the Provincial Government of Rizal). HUCs and ICCs are
>administratively independent of their provinces (save from unusual
exceptions
>depending on the City Charter, like Mandaue City residents being able
to vote
>for Cebu Provincial positions despite being an HUC). For example, Cebu
City is a
>HUC and so the Cebu Provincial Government has no legal say over the
territory of
>Cebu CIty (except for the limited case of paying costs to Cebu City for
>"hosting" the Cebu Provincial Capitol). (This has resulted in a lot of
legal
>battle between Cebu City and Cebu Province, like the dispute on who has
>jurisdiction over Osmena Circle in Cebu City.)
>
>(See this Wikipedia article section regarding independent cities:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_of_the_Philippines#Independent_citi
es )
>
>
>
>My proposal is that provincial boundaries should exclude these cities.
So
>Benguet's borders will have Baguio City as an enclave while Cebu
province's
>borders will exclude Cebu City, Mandaue City, and Lapu-Lapu City. So
Davao del
>Sur's northern border will be Davao City's southern border.
>
>
>Eugene / seav
>
>
>
>On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Marloue Pidor
<mur...@mail2engineer.com> wrote:
>
>I created a separate thread for this to give focus to the original
topic.
>
>What I said is actually true, in March 1, 1937 (but Araw ng Dabaw is in
March
>16) Davao City is inaugurated by President Manuel L. Quezon as a
chartered city
>by then Davao City is separated from Davao del Sur. Unlike Davao del
Sur, Davao
>City doesn't have a Governor. Well, actually we are not insisting, in
fact most
>of us does not know that Davao City is separate to any provinces it is
already
>separate and that includes Zamboanga City and Puerto Princesa (correct
me if I'm
>wrong).
>
>It is also correct that for statistical purposes DC is grouped under
Davao del
>Sur. That is why the City Government announces before in tri-media not
to fill
>in the "Province" part of any government forms. To separate the Davao
City data
>from Davao del Sur. 
>
>Here's some reference:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartered_city
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davao_City
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboanga_City
>http://www.nscb.gov.ph/ru11/davao_city/default.htm
>
>murlwe
>
><-----Original Message-----> 
>>From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com]
>>Sent: 4/30/2009 8:28:19 PM
>>To: mur...@mail2engineer.com
>>Cc: emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com;talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Revisiting the admin_level values
forboundary=administrative
>>
>>Hi Marloue,
>>
>>Slightly off-topic question. Since you're from Davao City, are
residents of the
>>city adamant about insisting that Davao City is separate from Davao
del Sur?
>>*Some* people from Zamboanga City are positively vocal (and sometimes
actually
>>hostile!) whenever people say they are part of Zamboanga del Sur[1].
>>
>>Many maps of the Philippines simplify the country's administrative
situation by
>>making ALL cities (except those in Metro Manila) be "part" of a
province. The
>>National Statistical Coordination Board actually groups Davao City
under Davao
>>del Sur[2], but only for statistical purposes..
>>
>>
>>Eugene / seav
>>
>>----------
>>[1]
http://www.zamboanga.com/html/terrorism_attack_on_zamboanga_city.htm
>>
>>[2]
>>http://www.nscb.gov.ph/activestats/psgc/municipality.asp?muncode=11240
2000&regcode=11&provcode=24
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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