I am in favor of the proposed changes, which is more refined than the current 
scheme that is now being implemented. Regarding some places mentioned by 
Eugene, Projects 2-8 are either administered by a similarly named barangay 
(Projects 4, 6, 7 & 8), or by barangays with different names. San Francisco del 
Monte is now (probably) composed of Barangay Del Monte and nearby barangays.

In tagging legislative/congressional districts, the tag should be 
boundary=political, per the previous comment that "representatives do not 
"administer" their respctive legislative districts."

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: maning sambale
 <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Revisiting the admin_level values for
 boundary=administrative
To: "Eugene Alvin Villar" <sea...@gmail.com>
Cc: "OSM" <talk-ph@openstreetmap.org>
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 12:18 PM

Added a your proposal in the mapping conventions page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Mapping_conventions#Administrative_boundaries

I propose we  replace the old scheme, once other people have
commented/raised their reactions.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi maning,
>
> Actually, I mentioned in my e-mail that I have specifically excluded
> congressional districts[1] from the discussion since these do not specify
>
 administrative boundaries. Aside from the pork barrel, the representatives
> don't *administer* their territories. I think these should be tagged as
> boundary=legislative/congressional and not  as boundary=administrative.[2]
>
> I've done a bit more research since my initial e-mail and here is my
> proposed values for admin_level:
>
> 2 - National border
> 3 - Regions
> 4 - Provinces
> 5 - Sangguniang Panlalawigan districts (if any)
> 6 - Cities/Municipalities
> 7 - Sangguniang Panlungsod/Bayan districts (if any)
> 8 - Other administrative districts[3] (if any)
> 9 - Zones (if any)
> 10 - Barangays
> 12 - Sitios/Puroks (if any, but only if boundaries are defined)
>
> The Sangguniang Lalawigan/Lungsod/Bayan districts are mentioned in Republic
> Act No. 7887[4]. These districts basically apportion the members of the
> LGU's Sanggunian.
 Since the Sanggunian is an administrative entity (it's the
> one that creates the local laws or ordinances), then it's proper that their
> districts also be given admin_levels.
>
> These proposed values have the proviso that admin_level=3 is *not*
> automatically an admin_level=4|5 due to the weird nature of Isabela City and
> the ARMM. (But, as long as all boundaries are grouped into relations, then
> there should be no problem with interpretations.)
>
>
> Eugene / seav
>
> -------------
> [1] The proper legal term is "legislative district".
>
> [2] We can also have boundary=judicial (for the jurisdictions of the
> Regional and Metropolitan trial courts) and boundary=police (like Manila's
> Western Police District). Also, Catholic archdioceses and dioceses, anyone
> (boundary=catholic)? :-)
>
> [3] Examples of other non-Sanggunian
 districts:
>
> A. Manila has 6 Sangguniang districts (I to VI) co-terminous with the
> legislative districts and these are further subdivided into 17 geographical
> districts: Tondo 1, Tondo 2, Sta. Cruz, Sampaloc, Sta. Mesa, Quiapo,
> Binondo, San Miguel, San Nicolas, Port Area, Intramuros, Paco, Pandacan,
> Ermita, Malate, Sta. Ana, and San Andres. These districts are further
> subdivided into 100 zones. (Tondo 1 and Tondo 2 used to be one district,
> while San Andres used to be part of Sta. Ana and Sta. Mesa used to be part
> of Sampaloc.)
>
> B. Iloilo City has 6 districts: Arevalo, City Proper, Jaro, La Paz,
> Mandurriao, and Molo. (Iloilo City has only 1 legislative district.)
>
> C. Davao City has 3 Sangguniang districts (1 to 3) co-terminous with the
> legislative districts and these are further subdivided into 11
> administrative districts:
 Poblacion, Talomo, Agdao, Buhangin, Bunawan,
> Paquibato, Baguio, Calinan, Marilog, Toril, and Tugbok.
>
> D. Pasay City has 7 districts (1 to 7) subdivided into 20 zones. (Pasay City
> has only 1 legislative district.)
>
> N.B. Quezon City "districts" like Cubao, Diliman, La Loma, San Francisco del
> Monte, Projects 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, etc. DO NOT have legally defined borders 
> so
> they won't have a place in the admin_level scheme.
>
> [4] http://www.chanrobles.com/republicacts/republicactno7887.html



      
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