Hi, Just an additional update: 1. SPOT Asia donated SPOT5 images for areas in Eastern Bulacan (10m resolution). Not very high-res but we can still use it.
2. Quickbird downloads halfway done (I'm running out of disk space already!). Posted a hosting request to the OSm main talk. No takers so far. All status are documented here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy#Data_updates Please add more ideas on how we can maximize the use of the images. On 10/21/09, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, once option 1 is set, people can start tracing. Also, we can then > start organizing for an event for this. It would be nice if we can get > someone who is familiar with Pangasinan. > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:06 PM, maning sambale > <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> For option 1 somebody at main talk committed to help. >> >> For option 3, can you join to at least start the tracing once we have >> the data? Parang code sprint only this time trace sprint ala google >> map maker mapping party. >> >> On 10/21/09, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I think a combination of options 1 and 3 is better. Set-up option 1 and >> have >> > option 3 for publicity. >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:23 AM, maning sambale < >> emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com >> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Just to add, we are also allowed to give the data to anybody outside >> >> OSM who wish to use them. But I propose they should get an approval >> >> of the group and not just me for that matter. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:17 AM, maning sambale >> >> <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > Just got a word from DigitalGlobe re: clarification on the license >> >> agreement. Here is the reply: >> >> > "You have full permission to distribute it as you feel you need to, >> >> > to >> >> > as >> >> many people as you need to, as long as when applicable, you credit the >> >> imagery to "DigitalGlobe"." Provided we do not sell the imagery, it is >> >> completely OK to use the data in OSM. Yay! >> >> > >> >> > As a preview here's the coverage of data (attached) >> >> > quickbird_coverage.png >> >> > >> >> > An example imagery showing inundated riverbanks post San Roque dam >> >> (October 09, 2009) >> >> > flooded_banks.png >> >> > >> >> > The rest of the images are archive (2006) but still very useful. >> >> > >> >> > I have been reviewing Gaza's experience on how they used a similar >> >> imagery: >> >> > >> >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Palestine_Gaza#Commercial_aerial_photography >> >> > >> >> > There are several options we can explore in order to share the load >> >> > on >> >> tracing the imagery: >> >> > 1. Create a secured non-cacheable WMS - pro: anybody with proper >> >> credentials can access the data and use it in josm or merkaartor. con - >> >> need >> >> a server to host and maintain >> >> > >> >> > 2. Give the actual images to interested volunteers - pro: easy to >> >> distribute just provide a download link or send a dvd con: we cannot >> >> guarantee that the imagery won't be sold or anything. Just so you know >> >> this >> >> cost around 2.8 million pesos from a local reseller. >> >> > >> >> > 3. Let's organize a map tracing event - pro: we have another social >> >> event to look forward invite LGUs who can use the data. con: logistical >> >> preparations >> >> > >> >> > As some of you know me personally, I would prefer to give out the >> >> > data >> >> > to >> >> anyone interested but given the explicit request by DigitalGlobe not to >> >> let >> >> the data (raw imagery) used for profit, I am somehow hesitant in this >> >> case. >> >> A good parnership with DigitalGlobe can help is in the future. >> >> > >> >> > Any ideas? >> >> > >> >> > cheers, >> >> > maning >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:06 PM, maning sambale < >> >> emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > Yep! Good enough for our purpose. >> >> > > >> >> > > I'm 10% finished with the download (poor PC)! Will post details on >> >> > > the data when I'm done. In the meantime we need to discuss how we >> can >> >> > > share the load in extracting the data (covering 700 sq km @ 0.6 >> meter >> >> > > resolution) within the bounds of product license. >> >> > > >> >> > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar < >> >> sea...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> Is the imagery rectified already? >> >> > >> >> >> > >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, maning sambale < >> >> emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> >> >> > >> wrote: >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> That's really the plan. They are aware that we are using it for >> OSM >> >> > >>> to support disaster recovery efforts. Offline tracing is OK but >> >> > >>> re-distributing the imagery. Based on experience, is not OK. >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> On 10/20/09, George Tujan <gtu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >>> > Can't we just formally ask DigitalGlobe that we will be tracing >> >> their >> >> > >>> > images >> >> > >>> > for OSM? >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:30 AM, maning sambale >> >> > >>> > <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> >> Hi, >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> DigitalGlobe provided high-res images for some areas affected >> by >> >> > >>> >> Pepeng in Northern Luzon. I am downloading them now. Might >> take >> >> 1 >> >> > >>> >> full day (maybe more) to finish. >> >> > >>> >> I would like to share them to the group so that they can help >> >> tracing >> >> > >>> >> the roads. However, I don't think DigitalGlobe allows for >> public >> >> > >>> >> access of the images. Any suggestion how we can proceed? >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> Maybe a satellite tracing party? @ Mikel, can you share your >> >> > >>> >> experience with Gaza? AFAIK, you have access to highres >> >> > >>> >> images >> >> > >>> >> in >> >> the >> >> > >>> >> area but a similar non-public release of the images ws part of >> >> > >>> >> the >> >> > >>> >> agreement? >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> -- >> >> > >>> >> cheers, >> >> > >>> >> maning >> >> > >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > >>> >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> >> > >>> >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> >> > >>> >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> >> > >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > >>> >> talk-ph mailing list >> >> > >>> >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> >> > >>> >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> -- >> >> > >>> cheers, >> >> > >>> maning >> >> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > >>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> >> > >>> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> >> > >>> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> >> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> > >>> talk-ph mailing list >> >> > >>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> >> > >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> -- >> >> > >> http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > -- >> >> > > cheers, >> >> > > maning >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> >> > > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> >> > > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > cheers, >> >> > maning >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> >> > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> >> > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> cheers, >> >> maning >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> talk-ph mailing list >> >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com >> > >> >> >> -- >> cheers, >> maning >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> > > > > -- > http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com > -- cheers, maning ------------------------------------------------------ "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph