Here's another opinion from Wikipedia: "The Antero Soriano Highway is a 2 to 4 lane, 21-kilometer highway transversing through the western coast of Cavite. It is one of the three major highways located in the province, the others are Aguinaldo Highway and the Governor's Drive." <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._Soriano_Highway>
So, it seems that there's greater evidence that A. Soriano Highway is indeed a trunk road. So I just upgraded it on OSM to trunk status starting from Cavitex and ending at the intersection with Governor's Drive in Naic: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8448585 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:51 AM, rem zamora <pompy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > my 2 cents. > me and my friends (from cavite) usually divide the province into two parts, > upland and lowland. upland comprises of imus-dasma-silang-tagaytay-et.al. and > lowland usually are those towns near the manila bay which includes > bacoor-kawit-noveleta-rosario-cavite city-naic-tanza. > back in the days in college, we have a provincial organization and every > weekend sabay sabay kame umuwi via public transpo. dalawang grupo pa rin yan > mainly again, those from uplands and lowlands. kasi the two major roads > (cavite-wise) in the province are aguinaldo hiway and that main road from > bacoor-naic (which is Soriano pala) > following rally's analogy, i'd say that hiway is a trunk. > The Caviteno's can answer the same question: if we cut Soriano Hiway, what > happens to the Cavite province? If Cavite can survive without it (even with > minor or major inconveniences of going around a similar alternate road), then > it's not a trunk road. Or what will happen to the future volume traffic of > CAVITEX if we close Soriano Hway? > > yes cavite and it's people will survive because people from naic and tanza > can simply go around the whole province and use governor's drive then > aguinaldo hiway. but is it practical? before CAVITEX, the only practical way > to go, let say to cavite city, is this hiway. > and imagine for practical uses of gps units. let say im from manila and have > no idea how to go to naic. i want to plan and see the main roads in cavite. > if i zoom out just to see these roads, all i can see are aguinaldo hiway and > governor's drive (which is what we have right now). it wont' be wise for me > to think that to go to naic i should use this trunk roads. > one more thing, if we have a set speed limit for trunk roads, then i say > aguinaldo hiway (from bacoor to imus area) should not be considered trunk. > for months now, maynilad has been digging the main road of cavite allowing > only one lane each direction. imagine the traffic here during rush hour. one > time i went home from manila at 5am and it was traffic the whole stretch from > bacoor to imus with speeds of 10kph or less. swerte ka na kung maka-20 ka :) > again just my 2 cents > rem > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Rally de Leon <rall...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> the high volume of traffic on Soriano says it's a trunk, but is it true that >> the traffic there is also very slow? If you can rarely reach an the average >> speed 40kmh, then maybe just another busy 'primary city road' that connects >> a few towns & cities. (we can't say the same for Metro Manila to qualify for >> trunk road). >> >> If you look at it in isolation, Soriano highway is not long enough to >> connect the province from end-to-end or doesn't function like bringing >> traffic from one region/province to another. (unlike Aguinaldo Hway & >> Governor's Drive, which terminate either to another province or to the >> coastline, or crosses provincial boundaries). >> >> Unless we interpret Soriano Hway as part of series of connected system of >> roads, eg. a continuation of CAVITEX which connects to NCR, or sort of a >> loop that connects back to Governor's Drive. Try zooming out (when all >> primary roads start to disappear, as I see it in a garmin map); it will show >> that Cavitex logically needs a 'provincial road' to terminate to (or to >> connect to...) Then it can be a trunk >> >> my opinion is 50:50, we go either way (trunk or primary). >> >> Now consider a tree. If you cut its trunk, everything on top of it will >> die.The trunk serves as the main conduit of water & nutrients from roots to >> all the branches and all the way to the topmost leaves & twigs. >> >> What will happen to Metro Manila if Guadalupe Bridge (part of EDSA), or that >> bridge in C-5 connecting Pasig to Makati collapse? chaos! goods coming from >> the NLEX or SLEX can't get through. Metro Manila will virtually be divided. >> Or imagine cutting Manila East Road or Ortigas Ave Ext in Rizal, or Halsema >> Highway in the Cordillera? you kill the provincial industries. >> >> The Caviteno's can answer the same question: if we cut Soriano Hiway, what >> happens to the Cavite province? If Cavite can survive without it (even with >> minor or major inconveniences of going around a similar alternate road), >> then it's not a trunk road. Or what will happen to the future volume traffic >> of CAVITEX if we close Soriano Hway? >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Any other opinions from other people in Cavite? Ian H., Rem? :-) >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Sorbi Ildefonso >>> <sorbi.ildefo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I believe it is a major highway. Volume-wise, a lot of vehicles including >>>> three bus lines (Lawton-Naic, Lawton-Ternate, Lawton-Maragondon) use A. >>>> Soriano. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A user wants to upgrade Antero Soriano Highway which connects Bacoor >>>>> to Naic from a primary road to a trunk road. I'd like to get the >>>>> opinion if this is a good move. >>>>> >>>>> For reference, Governor's Drive, which connects Naic to Carmona, and >>>>> Aguinaldo Highway, which connects Bacoor to Tagaytay, are both marked >>>>> as trunk roads already. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk-ph mailing list >>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk-ph mailing list >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> > > > > -- > Rem Zamora > 0916-55-11-407 > -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com _______________________________________________ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
