Thanks ian! These are great insights. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:42 PM, ianlopez <ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > 1. The osm-ph community. > > >Who is the "community"? > The OpenStreetMap community is composed of a growing number of contributors > and users who strive to improve the data in their own ways. > >What characterize a PH OSMer? > A typical OpenStreetMap user/contributor in the Philippines is someone with a > considerable knowledge on Philippine geography (especially one's local area), > gadgets that have something to do with cartography and navigation, and uses > OpenStreetMap to complete/accomplish certain goals, like finding a shortcut > or discovering new places. > >How do we map? > We map using conventional and sometimes unconventional techniques. > > >What are the innovative ways we do to improve the map? > I haven't think of any [yet] > > >Are the data users part of this community? > They are part of the community since they contribute to OSM indirectly > [example: notes gathered from persons who have recently traveled to a > certain area] > > >Is the talk-ph list and discussions here a representative sample of the > >osm-ph community? > Not really, though I believe that some contributors should participate in the > discussions in the mailing list once in a while. > > 2. How do we use the data? Or other ways you have used the data? > OpenStreetMap was used as a reference in a thesis by a student from the > University of the Philippines Los Baños (he graduated last April 2011) while > A map based on OpenStreetMap data is used by a not-for profit organization > and a barangay in Los Baños, Laguna. Some drivers and travelers use > OpenStreetMap data as a reference tool. > > 3. Issues and concerns. > >Why are we growing in some areas but not in others? > Maybe we haven't got enough media exposure. Maybe we haven't reached out to > other mappers who need to refine their edits a little bit more (especially > the tagging). Maybe they reside in an area without high-res imagery. Or maybe > we have some of the same problems that Wikipedia has or used to have (For > example, inaccurate data. Though other online maps have inaccurate data, I > believe that we are being singled out since we aren't that "established" > compared to Mapmaker and WIkimapia) > > >How do you gauge our relationship with other crowdsource mapping initiative > >in the country (google mapmaker, roadguide.ph, wikimapia)? > So far, only a couple of contributors from those sites have contributed to > OpenStreetMap with varying results. > > 4. The future. > >How do you see the state of PH data in a year or two? > We are going to breach the 100,000 kilometers of roads mark [based on a > figure from > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2011-August/003466.html ]. > > >What should be done to further improve and expand data coverage? > We can encourage college students, locals and bloggers to try out and edit > and use OpenStreetMap while simultaneously promoting it through old and new > media. We can also conduct 3-4 mapping parties (to improve OpenStreetMap's > coverage in a certain area), at least 2-3 skillshares and/or meetups and a > couple of meetings/talks/lectures per year. Who knows, we *might* host The > State of the Map or the Asian version of it! > > 5. Other concerns > > Maybe I should send them an email that their edits need refinement (Example: > "You may try to tag [Name of a residential area] as place=locality or > landuse=residential instead of place=village since the place=village tag is > used for barangays" or "You don't have to add "name=Rice field" on a rice > field and tag it as a meadow. Tag it as landuse=farm and crops=rice" or "town > halls/municipios should be tagged as amenity=townhall and not place=village > and name=[Name of town] Town Hall) instead of editing them directly. I think > that I should give the less experienced ones an opportunity to "clean the > milk that they've spilled" > > Postscript: I am working on the Philippines' contribution to How do you map > in. (Go to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ianlopez1115/HDYM if you > want to help out.) > > Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me. > Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you? > Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it. > ----- > Blog: http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/ > OpenStreetMap/Twitter: ianlopez1115 > Facebook: ian.lopez > > ________________________________ > From: maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> > To: OpenStreetMap Philippines <talk-ph@openstreetmap.org> > Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 8:05 PM > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Scholarship program to State of the > Map 2011 > > Dear everyone, > > I am know collating my mental notes in preparation for the "State of > the PH" lightning talk for SOTM2011. And since this is a community > presentation, I might as well ask you on what we should be presenting. > > The primary source materials of my talk is the wiki [0,1,2] and of > course, this list [3]. For sure the OSM-PH data has grown tremendously > in the the past 2 years. There a number of factors that may have > contributed to this growth. I would like to focus the presentation on > on 4 main points. Perhaps you can help me develop the discussion. > > 1. The osm-ph community. Who is the "community"? What characterize a > PH OSMer? How do we map? What are the innovative ways we do to > improve the map? Are the data users part of this community? Is the > talk-ph list and discussions here a representative sample of the osm-ph > community? > > 2. How do we use the data? Some sample of data useage we can > illustrate. Maybe a ph brewed mapping application? Or other ways you > have used the data? If there are any, > please provide a link or description and a screenshot. > > 3. Issues and concerns. Why are we growing in some areas but not > in others? How do you guage our relationship with other crowdsource > mapping initiative in the country (google mapmaker, roadguide.ph, wikimapia)? > > 4. The future. How do you see the state of PH data in a year or two? > What should be done to further improve and expand data coverage? > > If you any thoughts, just send them here or as a PM. Thanks! > > [0] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines > [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Timeline > [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Featured_images > [3] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, State of <country> talks are always well-received by the > > attendees. You can always talk about mapping activities in the > > Philippines. :-) > > > > And this wiki page needs some love: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Timeline > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:31 PM, maning sambale > > <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> FYI, I got my visa application approved for the SOTM 2011 conf. I > >> will start preparing for our (possible) OSM-PH talk. Any ideas what > >> we should discuss for this year in behalf of the osm-ph community? > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:18 PM, maning sambale > >> <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> FYI, > >>> > >>> The old nominees for the past SOTM scholarships are: Maning, Eugene and > >>> Murlwe > >>> > >>> Maning and Eugene are interested to try their luck again this time. > >>> Murlwe declined due to personal commitments. If there are others > >>> interested to participate as an OSM-PH representative for this > >>> scholarship, please tell us, as we prepare the nominations letter. > >>> Of course you can nominate yourself and send them directly to the > >>> scholarship organizers. > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> Hi Andre, > >>>> > >>>> I agree that it's a bit tight. But I asked my officemate who went to > >>>> the US last year and he said that he had a rush US visa application > >>>> since he has a conference to attend in connection with his MBA. He got > >>>> his appointment schedule in 2 weeks and the processing took 1 week. > >>>> > >>>> So maybe it's possible. :-) > >>>> > >>>> Eugene > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner > >>>> <an...@enthropia.com> wrote: > >>>>> Wow, when are they gonna decide > >>>>> does anyone already have a US visa? > >>>>> <3 months to get a visa isnt the best timetable :) > >>>>> > >>>>> On 3:59 AM, maning sambale wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hoping we can finally send a Filipino rep. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>>>>> From: Coast, Hurricane<hurricane.co...@mapquest.com> > >>>>>> Date: Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:35 AM > >>>>>> Subject: [OSM-talk] Scholarship program to State of the Map 2011 > >>>>>> To: "t...@openstreetmap.org"<t...@openstreetmap.org> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The State of the Map Committee is excited to announce a program to > >>>>>> cover full travel and accommodations costs for mappers to attend State > >>>>>> of the Map 2011 in Denver, Colorado (United States). We’re seeking > >>>>>> nominations from the community for potential mappers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We are seeking people from places where costs would prohibit > >>>>>> attendance, developing countries, and places that are “interesting” > >>>>>> geopolitically. The ideal candidates for funding are from countries > >>>>>> with a small OSM community, perhaps just a few mappers in total. They > >>>>>> have made a significant start at mapping their city, either through > >>>>>> imagery or with their own GPS, and are directly familiar with the > >>>>>> process of OSM. They may have started communicating among themselves, > >>>>>> and made plans and scoped out the process for their local district. > >>>>>> But, the community is nowhere near critical mass, and they need the > >>>>>> inspiration and support to take OSM to the next level. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We need to act fast! State of the Map is just over 3 and a half months > >>>>>> away, tickets and visas need to be arranged. In order to allow enough > >>>>>> time for all the arrangements, the nomination period will be short, > >>>>>> and ending at Sunday, June 25th. The number of scholarships rewarded > >>>>>> will be based on the success of fund-raising. From the nominations > >>>>>> received, we’ll review and invite scholars in late June. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Please send your nominations to scholars...@stateofthemap.org. For > >>>>>> each nomination, include the mappers name, OSM user name, email > >>>>>> address, location, and a paragraph or two on why they’d be great to > >>>>>> have at SOTM. Self nominations are accepted. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Please forward this message to other relevant local OSM and mapping > >>>>>> lists and social media! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> As for regions, here are a few regions that seem to fit the bill, but > >>>>>> nominations are not limited to these places at all. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Eastern and Southern Europe: Belarus, Kosovo, Bulgaria > >>>>>> Arab States: Tunisia, Bahrain, Jordan > >>>>>> Asia: Nepal, Afghanistan, Cambodia, Indonesia > >>>>>> Latin America: Argentina, Bolivia, Guatemala > >>>>>> Africa: Liberia, Ivory Coast, Swaziland > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sponsor-a-Mapper > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In previous years there has been a scholarship program to help mappers > >>>>>> who wouldn’t otherwise be able to attend get to State of the Map. This > >>>>>> year we are announces an “Sponsor-A-Mapper” program. There are plenty > >>>>>> of deserving individuals from all of the world that can’t afford to > >>>>>> attend SotM. To help them be able to come join the community in person > >>>>>> in Denver why don’t you consider paying to cover a portion of the cost > >>>>>> of their ticket? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We are attempting to raise an average of $2,500 USD per mapper in > >>>>>> order to be sure to cover their costs. This will vary slightly by > >>>>>> transportation costs depending from where the select scholarships are > >>>>>> traveling. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The more money we raise the more mappers we can sponsor! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To Sponsor-a-Mapper please email scholars...@stateofthemap.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you! > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> talk-ph mailing list > >>>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > >>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> cheers, > >>> maning > >>> ------------------------------------------------------ > >>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > >>> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > >>> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > >>> ------------------------------------------------------ > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> cheers, > >> maning > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> > > > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > ------------------------------------------------------ > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > >
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