On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 23:43 -0400, Anthony wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Peter Dobratz <pe...@dobratz.us> wrote: >> >> Do you think it makes more sense to tag the apartment complexes as >> >> access=destination or access=private? The complexes are not usually >> >> private. >> > >> > I'd even consider not putting access restrictions on them at all, >> > unless there is some rule that you shouldn't be using them as a >> > through street. What if you are walking or on a bicycle? >> >> What about jurisdictions like New Jersey, which have this law: >> >> New Jersey 39:4-66.2 "Except for emergency vehicles and motor vehicles >> being operated at the direction of a law enforcement officer, no >> person shall drive a motor vehicle on public property, except public >> roads or highways, or private property, with or without the permission >> of the owner, for the purpose of avoiding a traffic control signal or >> sign." > > That's a pretty normal consideration and most routers avoid cutting > through service/living_street situations as is (though explicit tagging > is never bad). > >> Would such private ways, which could be used to avoid a stop sign, be >> access=permissive, motor_vehicle=destination? I don't know. I >> thought access=destination was only to be used for rights of way. And >> I think if I were coding a router I'd avoid using an access=permissive >> as a through street anyway. But maybe that's my >> learned-to-drive-in-New-Jersey bias. > > I wouldn't consider it permissive by bicycle in such a circumstance, > because most (all?) places in the US consider bicycles vehicles except > when operated in extremely limited circumstances (effectively making a > cyclist act like a pedestrian), since pedestrians are normally exempt > from intersection signals if their trip takes them down a contiguous > sidewalk that doesn't cross the street.
The NJ law in question is regarding driving a *motor* vehicle on public property, though. That law doesn't apply to bicycles, though I can't say for certain that there isn't another law which does. _______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
