Martijn,

It never hurts to have advocates asking the DOT when they are going to get on 
board.  Feel free to raise the subject and get me involved if appropriate.


Kerry

-----Original Message-----
From: mve...@gmail.com [mailto:mve...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Martijn van Exel
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:55 PM
To: KerryIrons
Cc: OSM US Talk; steve...@softworkers.com
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Route mapping projects

OK let me know if I can help, I know a few bike folks at the local government 
here and some folks at UDOT I could ask.

Martijn

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:46 PM, KerryIrons <irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Matijn,
>
> We've been trying to get Utah to the table but nothing yet.  Perhaps with NV 
> committed to bringing USBR 50 to the UT border that will trigger some action 
> but that is in the future.  We can only work on projects where the states are 
> engaged.
>
>
> Kerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mve...@gmail.com [mailto:mve...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Martijn 
> van Exel
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:35 PM
> To: KerryIrons
> Cc: OSM US Talk; steve...@softworkers.com
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Route mapping projects
>
> Hey Kerry - thanks for clarifying and for bearing with me as I learn about 
> long distance routes around here.
> 250,000 miles. Wow. That is a very impressive number.
> No Utah routes? :) If there are, I'd be more than happy to lend a hand.
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:08 PM, KerryIrons <irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net> 
> wrote:
>> Martijn,
>>
>> In many cases Adventure Cycling members do not know these routes.  USBRs are 
>> developed by the states and do not always follow existing Adventure Cycling 
>> routes for various reasons.  In addition the Adventure Cycling route network 
>> is about 45,000 miles while a fully developed USBR system would approach 
>> 250,000 miles.
>>
>> It is the specific routes that the states will submit to AASHTO that need to 
>> be mapped in OSM.  Many current projects do not follow existing Adventure 
>> Cycling routes in any way (USBR 50 would be a perfect example).
>>
>> I don't know how many Adventure Cycling members would be willing to become 
>> even "novice level" OSM mappers.
>>
>> What we are asking for is for interested OSM mappers to partner with USBR 
>> project teams to help with map development by putting the proposed and 
>> approved routes into OSM.
>>
>>
>> Kerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mve...@gmail.com [mailto:mve...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Martijn 
>> van Exel
>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 2:49 PM
>> To: KerryIrons
>> Cc: OSM US Talk; steve...@softworkers.com
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Route mapping projects
>>
>> Great to see progress on this, kudos to you and Steve both for 
>> investing all that time in this great project! (I am saying this as 
>> an OSM contributor as well as an ACA member and planner of a long 
>> distance bike trip)
>>
>> Would it be possible to turn this around and have ACA members that know 
>> these routes intimately to maintain these routes in OSM themselves, and have 
>> experienced OSM mappers mentor them? Or perhaps that is exactly what you're 
>> suggesting? Thinking out loud we could do a Google hangout or similar where 
>> interested folks (either ACA or OSM) could be introduced to the intricacies 
>> of long distance bike route mapping.
>>
>> Let me know if and how I can assist.
>> Martijn
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 5:40 PM, KerryIrons <irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net> 
>> wrote:
>>> OSM mappers:
>>>
>>> As you may know from past discussions there is a developing US Bicycle 
>>> Route system and there are a number of projects underway at the state level 
>>> to develop and designate USBRs.  Those project teams are at various stages 
>>> of development but may be interested in partnering with one or more OSM 
>>> mappers to get their proposed or approved routes into the OSM data base.
>>>
>>> Steve All and I found similar work to be a fruitful collaboration together, 
>>> and I look forward to doing that again multiplied many times at the 
>>> statewide level.  Steve has developed a high level of expertise on USBR 
>>> mapping and has wiki pages to explain the process AND we have good examples 
>>> (of well-tagged routes) at the national and state levels.  He is happy to 
>>> be a reference available to answer syntax/tagging/technical questions about 
>>> OSM itself that are specific to bicycle route mapping.
>>>
>>> Here is the list of current or incipient USBR projects where involvement 
>>> from OSM mappers could be helpful to the project effort.
>>>
>>> Alabama, USBR 90 and perhaps USBR 23 Arkansas, USBR 80 and USBR 51 
>>> California, USBR 66 Indiana, USBR 35, USBR 50 Louisiana, USBR 90 
>>> Maryland, USBR 50 Mississippi, USBR 90, USBR 25/35 (Natchez Trace) 
>>> Nevada, USBR 50 New Mexico, USBR 66 Ohio, USBR 50 Oklahoma, USBR 66 
>>> Tennessee, USBR 23 Virginia, USBR 11 Washington, USBR 10 Wisconsin, 
>>> USBR 30 Wyoming, USBR
>>> 76
>>>
>>> If you are interested in helping one or more of these project teams, please 
>>> let me know and I will introduce you to the appropriate state level USBR 
>>> folks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kerry Irons
>>> Adventure Cycling Association
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Martijn van Exel
>> http://oegeo.wordpress.com/
>> http://openstreetmap.us/
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 6:40 PM, KerryIrons <irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net> 
>> wrote:
>>> OSM mappers:
>>>
>>> As you may know from past discussions there is a developing US Bicycle 
>>> Route system and there are a number of projects underway at the state level 
>>> to develop and designate USBRs.  Those project teams are at various stages 
>>> of development but may be interested in partnering with one or more OSM 
>>> mappers to get their proposed or approved routes into the OSM data base.
>>>
>>> Steve All and I found similar work to be a fruitful collaboration together, 
>>> and I look forward to doing that again multiplied many times at the 
>>> statewide level.  Steve has developed a high level of expertise on USBR 
>>> mapping and has wiki pages to explain the process AND we have good examples 
>>> (of well-tagged routes) at the national and state levels.  He is happy to 
>>> be a reference available to answer syntax/tagging/technical questions about 
>>> OSM itself that are specific to bicycle route mapping.
>>>
>>> Here is the list of current or incipient USBR projects where involvement 
>>> from OSM mappers could be helpful to the project effort.
>>>
>>> Alabama, USBR 90 and perhaps USBR 23 Arkansas, USBR 80 and USBR 51 
>>> California, USBR 66 Indiana, USBR 35, USBR 50 Louisiana, USBR 90 
>>> Maryland, USBR 50 Mississippi, USBR 90, USBR 25/35 (Natchez Trace) 
>>> Nevada, USBR 50 New Mexico, USBR 66 Ohio, USBR 50 Oklahoma, USBR 66 
>>> Tennessee, USBR 23 Virginia, USBR 11 Washington, USBR 10 Wisconsin, 
>>> USBR 30 Wyoming, USBR
>>> 76
>>>
>>> If you are interested in helping one or more of these project teams, please 
>>> let me know and I will introduce you to the appropriate state level USBR 
>>> folks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kerry Irons
>>> Adventure Cycling Association
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Talk-us mailing list
>>> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Martijn van Exel
>> http://oegeo.wordpress.com/
>> http://openstreetmap.us/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Martijn van Exel
> http://oegeo.wordpress.com/
> http://openstreetmap.us/
>



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