On 2016.05.25. 06:19, Bill Ricker wrote:
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org
<mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org>> wrote:
In the American context, this is an edge case, big time.
What is old is new again.
Officer housing at old Fort Hamilton (Brooklyn, the Narrows) were laid
out with a Livable Street design before that was a name. (They had
service alley or mews in the rear and grassy forecourts. The officers
were expected to walk to work on-base in the 1880's - 1910's.) I am
familiar with this because my favorite (maternal) uncle's favorite
(maternal) uncle lived off-post/on-post in old Officers Quarters after
the base perimeter had contracted but it was still Officer country
(1928-1930) ... he lived on the eponymous Hamilton Way [1] which is
coded highway=footway [2] , which page on our wiki suggests
highway=pedestrian [3] if wider, and cross-references [4] Path Controversy.
(Per OSM, the house still stands.)
I would lean towards livable_street, since there's no separate
sidewalk, no reasonable expectation you're going to go more than
cycleway speed, and the main entries to buildings are on it
While 'livable street'
is an Urban Design term of at for the concept in some areas, I don't
see it in OSM wiki or taginfo ? [5] . OSM seems to use the similar
highway=living_street [6] for low speed limits, pedestrian as primary
but not exclusive, which doesn't seem to be the case in the
grassy-and-walk shared front yards shown by the original question on
thread here (but without Mews/alley in rear). The living_street examples
in OSM wiki appear to be extreme traffic calming to restore in-street
playability to 1950s suburban, 1930s urban level but still tolerate
commuter cars returning home and a UPS delivery through the street-ball
play, which is not the feature exhibited by original post.
to give a different perspective, that looks like a highway=service from
both sides, with a footway potentially connecting them. if desired,
service=driveway could be added.
living_street in most european countries is an officially designated
area with a sign like this :
http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/QNfHdIXQdxCA8Cy1eSphxw/photo
it usually means maxspeed=20 km/h and giving way to pedestrians/cyclists
(everywhere)
[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5677149
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=footway?uselang=en-US
[3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpedestrian
[4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Path_controversy
[5a] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=livable#values
[5b] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=livable_street#values
[5c] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=pedestrian#values
[6a] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=living_street
[6b]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:living_street%3Dyes
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