On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:18 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea <stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote: > I'm glad Adam brings up the topic of Gores, as I'm also unclear on how such > "holes" get "punched into" larger (multi)polygons via tagging. For example, > I am "sort-of-sure" (but not positive) that in Vermont, a "gore" (or grant, > location, purchase, surplus, strip...usually the result of "leftovers" from > survey errors) get a tag of admin_level=4 to accurately reflect that the > governmental administration happens via state-level bureaucracy. Yet, like > Adam, I also have the nagging feeling of "smells wrong," because I don't > understand the mechanism by which such a "hole" is "punched into" the state > like this to the exclusion of the lower-level entities (like a Town). > ("Sort-of-sure" doesn't feel good enough to me, so I seek clarification).
This is where I think you've gone astray. Let me pick a concrete example: Dixville, New Hampshire, population 12. This is a well-identified place, with known and surveyed boundaries. It makes a point of being the first community in the United States to report election returns. All the registered voters in Dixville gather ceremoniously the night before Election Day, open the polls at midnight, cast their ballots, close the polls again (which they can do, since all registered voters have voted, there can be no more votes to count), and report the total, usually a few minutes after midnight. Having a population of only 12, it has no local government. All government services are provided by the State of New Hampshire or by Coös County. If the population were suddenly to boom (for instance, if the Balsams Resort were to be converted into dozens of condos), it could hold a town meeting (a legislature of the whole - common in New England municipalities), elect a board of selectmen (the executive committee), appoint a justice (a judiciary of one), and become New Hampshire's 222nd town. As such, it is at an equal administrative level to all other towns/townships/cities in New Hampshire - it has the right to form a municipal government. It simply has not done so. It is not some sort of special object at admin_level=4 just because the State for the most part fulfills the functions of a local government. It is an admin_level=8 entity like any other town or village in the state. All the Townships, Locations, Plantations, Grants and Purchases that have not incorporated have the same status. They do not overlap any of each other, or any Town or City. (Exception: Hart's Location, population 41, is a full-fledged Town.) They are level-8 administrative entities that happen not to be self-governing, just as (some) Hamlets within the Towns in New York. Gores in Vermont are similar. New York has no unorganized Towns - the most that ever happens in the sparsely-inhabited ones is that the executive and legislative posts might go vacant, in which case the county steps in to govern, as much as government is needed. I don't know the details about what happens with the Unorganized Territory of Maine - but if we have no better information, we could do worse than to create a single admin_level=8 area to represent it - or leave it without administrative boundaries below State level. The correct answer to, 'in what town is Chairback Mountain?' is, 'it is not in any town. Its survey township is uninhabited.' _______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us