Stevea,

Thanks for the comments.  I don't think i'll ever be able to say the word
"license" again.

-Vivek

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 1:18 AM Minh Nguyen <m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us>
wrote:

> On 19/09/2017 23:44, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote:
> > Vivek Bansal <3viv...@gmail.com> writes:
> >> We are using the San Jose data which has an ODbL compliant license (and
> any government data in California has the same).
> >
> > I'm following the San José discussion and don't wish to get too
> technically legal:  I am not an attorney, though I have paid attention to
> the legal situation with state (of California) produced geo data and how
> our state "Open Data/Open Records" laws plus two fairly recent California
> Supreme Court decisions make state-published data roughly if not
> essentially equivalent to public domain.  These legal circumstances taken
> together with OSM's ODBL result in "be free to use the data, OSM, they are
> ODbL compliant."  It isn't exactly correct to use the word "license" in how
> California publishes geo data.  It IS correct that such data are "ODBL
> compliant."  It isn't a license that grants this, it is case law or stare
> decisis (Latin for "let the decision stand") which confirm such data
> published by the state comply with both statutory law (California Public
> Records Act, CPRA) and California's state constitution.  The bottom line is
> "the data are ODbL compliant" though it isn't via "license."
>
> Yes, we're aware of County of Santa Clara v. California First Amendment
> Coalition as it relates to the CPRA. The wiki page describing the import
> [1] currently states the source data's _copyright status_ as being in
> the public domain, steering clear of the term "license". Hopefully
> that'll be clear enough for the purposes of this import project.
>
> > From an OSM perspective, I suppose it can be said we are fortunate to
> have as much state (of California) published geo data available to us as we
> do; I certainly am grateful for these circumstances!
>
> Well said -- as someone who also maps in states with more restrictive
> copyright laws, it's been refreshing to be able to say "public domain",
> end of story.
>
> [1]
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Santa_Clara_County,_California/San_Jose_Sidewalk_Import
>
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