Cycleway crossing At the risk of opening this discussion too far, here is the way I handle exactly this situation.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=21/45.14100/-93.38143 Ignore any slight mis-alignment between aerial photos and the location of the nodes and ways. I used Mapbox and things line up fine with it. Other images sources not quite as well. Background: in my area almost all "trails" are dual use (bike & foot) so I use the ID pre-set for Cycle & Foot Path. I also set the pavement type, the bike-ped separation, one-wayness, and width. These tags look like: bicycle=designated foot=designated highway=cycleway name=Rush Creek Regional Trail oneway=no segregated=no surface=asphalt width=3 For crosswalks when I am doing detailed mapping (which I did for this area), I do not connect the trail to the road until I have done the following: I use the ID presets for either marked or unmarked crossing. I do it by splitting the way at both curbs (usually), then picking the appropriate preset. I then set foot and bicycles access to designated (reason below). I then adjust surface type, tactile paving (if known) and refuge island (almost always no). By splitting first, then connecting later, ID automatically sets the crossing point (node) as a marked or unmarked crossing and I don't have to. In this crosswalk the tagging looks like: bicycle=designated crossing=marked crossing:island=no footway=crossing highway=footway name=Rush Creek Regional Trail segregated=no surface=asphalt width=3 I believe the above follows the wiki, provides lots of very correct information, and, btw, renders very nicely (e.g. in OSMAND). My rationale for setting the access to designated: in our area these 3 meter asphalt trails are designed for both foot and bike traffic. The trails are designated for that. If a crosswalk connects two segments (as does this) I assume the crosswalk is designated as well. If I am in a hurry and cannot do a detailed job on the crosswalk, I connect the crossing ways and let ID put in a simple crossing node. I usually modify it to be marked or unmarked. On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 1:35 PM <talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Send Talk-us mailing list submissions to > talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-us-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-us digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Cycleway Crossings (Doug Peterson) > 2. Re: Cycleway Crossings (Paul Johnson) > 3. Re: Cycleway Crossings (Mateusz Konieczny) > 4. Re: Cycleway Crossings (Natfoot) > 5. Re: Cycleway Crossings (Paul Johnson) > 6. Re: Cycleway Crossings (Doug Peterson) > 7. Re: Cycleway Crossings (James Umbanhowar) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 07:11:01 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Doug Peterson" <dougpeter...@dpeters2.dyndns.org> > To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: [Talk-us] Cycleway Crossings > Message-ID: <1596798661.2...@dpeters2.dyndns.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have noticed in my area where some people have been adding crossings to > a designated cycleway (named and signed as a bike trail). The crossings are > fine. It is that the crossing is then been changed to a footway. > > I have looked at the highway=cycleway wiki and not seen anything > addressing crossings. There was one screenshot that seemed to show > intersections or crossings with roads remaining as cycleways. Before I made > any effort on changing these back I wanted to ask if there was any other > knowledge out there about this. > > Thanks, > > Doug > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 08:44:19 -0500 > From: Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> > To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list <talk-us@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Cycleway Crossings > Message-ID: > < > campm96ox+3tsnak80hwscx_xw7cbco-gxo8fkxxx-cdjtrz...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:11 AM Doug Peterson < > dougpeter...@dpeters2.dyndns.org> wrote: > > > I have noticed in my area where some people have been adding crossings to > > a designated cycleway (named and signed as a bike trail). The crossings > are > > fine. It is that the crossing is then been changed to a footway. > > > > Can we get an example? > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/attachments/20200807/c31a1f93/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 19:12:33 +0200 (CEST) > From: Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com> > To: Doug Peterson <dougpeter...@dpeters2.dyndns.org> > Cc: Talk Us <talk-us@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Cycleway Crossings > Message-ID: <me8udpg--...@tutanota.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > Aug 7, 2020, 13:11 by dougpeter...@dpeters2.dyndns.org: > > > I have noticed in my area where some people have been adding crossings > to a designated cycleway (named and signed as a bike trail). The crossings > are fine. It is that the crossing is then been changed to a footway. > > > link? > > > > > I have looked at the highway=cycleway wiki and not seen anything > addressing crossings. There was one screenshot that seemed to show > intersections or crossings with roads remaining as cycleways. Before I made > any effort on changing these back I wanted to ask if there was any other > knowledge out there about this. > > > is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing maybe helpful? > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/attachments/20200807/39c049e1/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 10:48:20 -0700 > From: Natfoot <natf...@gmail.com> > To: Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com> > Cc: Doug Peterson <dougpeter...@dpeters2.dyndns.org>, Talk Us > <talk-us@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Cycleway Crossings > Message-ID: > <CALMehSc6THnJ6NLno-Ei+8QfcHRDYdnGkUvPHHSwpaxt= > vk...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > here is my example and location specific response > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/663362208 > Nathan P > email: natf...@gmail.com > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 10:14 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us < > talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Aug 7, 2020, 13:11 by dougpeter...@dpeters2.dyndns.org: > > > > I have noticed in my area where some people have been adding crossings to > > a designated cycleway (named and signed as a bike trail). The crossings > are > > fine. It is that the crossing is then been changed to a footway. > > > > link? > > > > > > I have looked at the highway=cycleway wiki and not seen anything > > addressing crossings. There was one screenshot that seemed to show > > intersections or crossings with roads remaining as cycleways. Before I > made > > any effort on changing these back I wanted to ask if there was any other > > knowledge out there about this. > > > > is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing maybe helpful? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-us mailing list > > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/attachments/20200807/b2e3e3e3/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 12:53:42 -0500 > From: Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> > To: Talk Us <talk-us@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Cycleway Crossings > Message-ID: > <CAMPM96qkC7qn= > sabvyj-kshnjxmqtkupdj152jfyxdjwvcb...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:49 PM Natfoot <natf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > here is my example and location specific response > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/663362208 > > > > I'd probably call that highway=path, bicycle=designated, foot=yes based off > what I'm seeing in the aerial photography. I seem to recall it was striped > out as a cycleway at one point and it's possible the lane and edgelines > wore off; if this is the case, then highway=cycleway, foot=yes would be the > correct set of tags for that short collection that got dinged to > highway=footway. I will say that highway=footway is definitely > inappropriate in this one. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/attachments/20200807/f0aa7835/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:04:27 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Doug Peterson" <dougpeter...@dpeters2.dyndns.org> > To: Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com> > Cc: Talk Us <talk-us@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Cycleway Crossings > Message-ID: <1596823467.17...@dpeters2.dyndns.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > That wiki page was helpful. In one set of cases the change was from > highway=cycleway on the way to highway=footway and adding footway=crossing. > In another set it added highway=crossing to the intersection node. It looks > like from the crossing wiki that the tagging should really be on the node. > Way can be tagged as a crossing but it seems discouraged. The footway wiki > indicates footway=crossing should also be on the node. > > Thanks, > > Doug > > Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com> wrote .. > > > > > > > > Aug 7, 2020, 13:11 by dougpeter...@dpeters2.dyndns.org: > > > > > I have noticed in my area where some people have been adding crossings > to a designated > > cycleway (named and signed as a bike trail). The crossings are fine. It > is that > > the crossing is then been changed to a footway. > > > > > link? > > > > > > > > I have looked at the highway=cycleway wiki and not seen anything > addressing crossings. > > There was one screenshot that seemed to show intersections or crossings > with roads > > remaining as cycleways. Before I made any effort on changing these back > I wanted > > to ask if there was any other knowledge out there about this. > > > > > is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing maybe helpful? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:34:53 -0400 > From: James Umbanhowar <jumba...@gmail.com> > To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Cycleway Crossings > Message-ID: <ad90d9863dee07f9b06a13d56bd7725b3fe9bf2f.ca...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I think that iD doesn't have a preset for cycleway=crossing so that > editors may think that is not a valid tag for a crossing. > > On Fri, 2020-08-07 at 14:04 -0400, Doug Peterson wrote: > > That wiki page was helpful. In one set of cases the change was from > > highway=cycleway on the way to highway=footway and adding > > footway=crossing. In another set it added highway=crossing to the > > intersection node. It looks like from the crossing wiki that the > > tagging should really be on the node. Way can be tagged as a crossing > > but it seems discouraged. The footway wiki indicates footway=crossing > > should also be on the node. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Doug > > > > Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com> wrote .. > > > > > > > > > Aug 7, 2020, 13:11 by dougpeter...@dpeters2.dyndns.org: > > > > > > > I have noticed in my area where some people have been adding > > > > crossings to a designated > > > cycleway (named and signed as a bike trail). The crossings are > > > fine. It is that > > > the crossing is then been changed to a footway. > > > link? > > > > > > > I have looked at the highway=cycleway wiki and not seen anything > > > > addressing crossings. > > > There was one screenshot that seemed to show intersections or > > > crossings with roads > > > remaining as cycleways. Before I made any effort on changing these > > > back I wanted > > > to ask if there was any other knowledge out there about this. > > > is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing maybe helpful? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-us mailing list > > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Talk-us Digest, Vol 153, Issue 6 > *************************************** >
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