Hi List,

This would be a great effort.

I do not think though that the tag boundary=aboriginal_lands is appropriate
in the case of South Africa in particular when one considers its definition
- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Daboriginal_lands

To emphasize my point none of these apply to these areas in South Africa:

While the specific status of these areas differs by country, they generally
share two things in common:

   1. These regions have special legal status for the benefit of aboriginal
   peoples, and different laws may be enforced within these regions. The
   aboriginal groups usually have some form of self-governance in these areas.
   2. These regions are mutually recognized between the aboriginal peoples
   and the occupying/colonizing government, and their boundaries are not in
   dispute. (The fact that some aboriginal groups may claim much larger areas
   and may be negotiating for an expansion of their reservations does not
   change the fact that the existing boundaries are mutually recognized as the
   current legal situation).

In addition my understanding of these areas were the result of the Black
Authorities Act of 68 of 1951

I think a tag of boundary=rural is more appropriate.

Thanks.

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 at 13:00, Adrian Frith <adr...@adrianfrith.com> wrote:

> @Grant Slater you're on the DWG, right? And you have experience
> getting SA government people to release data. Do you have advice on
> how we should request and what form of release we need? I have a
> contact at DRDLR who sent me the shapefile.
>
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 at 20:51, Adrian Frith <adr...@adrianfrith.com> wrote:
> >
> > There are 800 in the shapefile that I have from DRLDR. I guess the
> > next step is to get permission from them and then talk to the Data
> > Working Group.
> >
> > On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 10:47, Reuben Honigwachs via Talk-ZA
> > <talk-za@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Since nobody has chimed in, yet, let me say this is a wonderful idea
> and I'll gladly support the effort.
> > >
> > > Do you have a rough idea of how many there are?
> > >
> > > Best, Reuben
> > >
> > > On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 15:20, Adrian Frith <adr...@adrianfrith.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi talk-za,
> > >>
> > >> Do you think it would be appropriate for us to map the traditional
> > >> councils (formerly "tribal authorities") with the tag
> > >> boundary=aboriginal_lands[1]? I have mapped one as an example
> > >> (Batlhaping ba ga Mothibi) which you can see on the map at [2].
> > >>
> > >> If we were to go ahead I suppose we might have to get formal
> > >> permission from the Department of Rural Development and Land Reform
> > >> which seems to be the custodian of the boundary data (of which I have
> > >> a copy).
> > >>
> > >> Your thoughts?
> > >> Adrian
> > >>
> > >> [1]
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Daboriginal_lands
> > >> [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/-27.8342/24.5359
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