Ah. I like in shoutcast that you can see song history and do similar station
related things, haven't seen that in icecast yet, but maybe it's some
optional thing and none of the icecast servers I've seen use it. hmm .
Getting things through svn is great, if you can compile source code which
may or may not work on your machine for stupid reasons.
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Perdue" <patr...@pdaudio.net>
To: "talk2" <talk2@AndreLouis.COM>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List hi
Also, Icecast doesn't have that stupid stream burst delay/buffer thing
that SHOUTCast has, which you can't do much about, so streams are a lot
closer to realtime, since the server isn't throwing huge bursts of data at
the start of a stream (unless you really want it to). Plus, no ogg support
for SHOUTCast, and ogg at low bitrates beats the pants off mp3 in the same
vaine, especially if you're using newer versions of the codec, such as
AoTuV 5.7. The only cool thing about SHOUTCast over Icecast is that it has
a bigger online directory, and the server is easier to set up, since it's
a lot less configurable or fun in general. It doesn't need any
dependencies, you just run the binary and it just sort of works. Icecast
does need several dependencies, but, if you don't want to play with the
latest bleading edge SVN, there are packages of it. I don't think there is
an Icecast 2.3.2 package though, you may still need to use SVN for that.
matthew cooper wrote:
Less delay mainly, and the ability to stream multiple streams off of the
same server rather than having a different one for each one
----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Roberts"
<bigd.vi....@gmail.com>
To: "talk2" <talk2@AndreLouis.COM>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List hi
What's so cool about icecast?
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan
----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue"
<patr...@pdaudio.net>
To: "talk2" <talk2@AndreLouis.COM>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List hi
I used to have one of those. My schedule was very screwed up at the
time, since I was working part-time during the day and taking night
classes.
It went something like this:
Wake up at 5:00 PM,
Go to class at 6 (takes 30/45 minutes to get from here to the campus),
get home around Midnight,
hang around for a while,
go to work at 9:00 AM,
come home at 2:30 PM,
sleep for two hours,
do it all over again.
And, at this point, I'd still do it. "Don't call us, we'll call you"
has been the constant theme for me over the last six years. I'm
thinking of going back to school somewhere, which I thought I'd never
say at any point during my life, given the opportunity.
By the way, SHOUTCast is evil. ICECast is fun.
Jonathan Sewell wrote:
Yeah i can say from personal experience that having a job is good for
the money. but the getting up everymorning at 6:30 really really
sucks. so maybe not having a job is good!. who knows.
----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Nicole Campbell"
<nicolesep...@gmail.com>
To: "talk2" <talk2@AndreLouis.COM>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 13:41
Subject: RE: The Talk2 List hi
Yes.
Having a job is most definitely ungood... But I did ask what was
good.. But
that didn't stop anyone from talking about bad things... Being hungry
is
also bad.
Someone cook for me!
-----Original Message-----
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf
Of
Patrick Perdue
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:10 PM
To: talk2
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List hi
Ask a bad person what is good, and you shall know what is bad. Me,
for
example. I can tell you that not having a job is good, but since I'm
bad,
it's not. The list goes on, however, I don't. It would be pointless,
stupid
and generally irrelevant to continue this tangent, which hasn't
stopped any
of us from doing so in the past, and probably won't in future,
either.
matthew cooper wrote:
Lots of things are good over here too, like the absence of school,
summer as you said, up comming fixtures in the sports callinder and
other things of that nature. I could tell you what's bad, but seeing
as you asked the general populous of the list what's good, i shall
not
do such a thing. INstaid, i will simply press the ault key and the S
key at the same time, and, beleave it or not, it'll send the
message.
What do ya know.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Derek Roberts <mailto:bigd.vi....@gmail.com>
*To:* talk2 <mailto:talk2@AndreLouis.COM>
*Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2009 7:53 PM
*Subject:* Re: The Talk2 List hi
Lots of things are good, like TBRN, the weekend (which starts
today,
yay!) summer, and, ur . well lots of things. lol
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first
place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you
are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W.
Kernighan
----- Original Message -----
*From:* S. Nicole Campbell <mailto:nicolesep...@gmail.com>
*To:* talk2 <mailto:talk2@AndreLouis.COM>
*Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2009 2:52 PM
*Subject:* RE: The Talk2 List hi
Hilo new subscriber thing.
what's good?
*From:* mai...@andrelouis.com <mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com>
[mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] *On Behalf Of *Derek Roberts
*Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2009 2:51 PM
*To:* talk2
*Subject:* The Talk2 List hi
Hi all. I'm some new subscriber person. 'sup? lol.
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first
place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible,
you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W.
Kernighan
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