hmph. well I myself think simbian rocks. win mobile, well from what I hear it crashes like no one's business. On that note wander why no one has designed something around a linux distro, ubuntu, maybe nvda and something else. could probably work to. and you could run linux apps on your mobile. At 10:35 a.m. 2/03/2010, you wrote: >I suspect everyone on that list has already signed. He needs to get the word >out through additional channels without trying to guilt trip the reader into >signing it. Frankly though, I don't think there will be much luck. A telecomm >company that has hundreds of thousands of customers doesn't care about a >thousand blind people, no matter how angry they get. Just look at what >Microsoft is doing to Windows Mobile; yanking the rug out from under everyone >with no regards to keeping products like MobileSpeak functional. Why petition? >Microsoft obviously doesn't give a flip, and neither do these guys. > >As much as I like MobileSpeak and especially Mobile Geo, I'll be banking on >the Android platform in a few years when both WM and Simbian are dead. > >Steve > > >On 3/1/2010 3:39 PM, Onj wrote: >>you're not head of a large blindy organisation, though. And though I agree >>with your standpoint, to a point, if I ask you, will you sign instead? I'm >>asking as someone who, unless Loadstone really decides to do something >>useful, will have no GPS undder his platform. You have Mobile Geo and you >>are lucky for that, however it shall be a cold day in hell I switch to >>Windows smart. Especially with all the incredibly um, interesting? changes >>they are trying to implement at this time. >>So, ignoring that message, which to be fair the guy did have a point, he >>wasn't saying it to individuals but to large organisations, please sign it. I >>can't ask more than that really. >> >>From: Stephen Clower <st...@steve-audio.net> >>on Monday, March 01, 2010 7:20 PM >> >>>So... he wants more signatures, but the only way he feels he can get >>>them is to insult everybody? I won't sign now simply because of the >>>author's attitude, despite his good intentions. >>> >>>Steve >>> >>>On 3/1/2010 2:12 PM, Onj wrote: >>>>I haven't seen a message on this list for months. Why not let the >>>>content of this message speak for itself? >>>> >>>>From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <ta...@talknav.com> >>>>on Monday, March 01, 2010 6:02 PM >>>> >>>>>A quick note to all of you who have, and those who as of yet have not >>>>>signed >>>>>the WFA user protest site. >>>>> >>>>>Before I start my message the link right here and now is >>>>>www.talknav.com/protest >>>>> >>>>>Firstly, a note to all of you who have signed, thank you, but I have >>>>>to at >>>>>this stage say that it is way too few who have made this effort. We are >>>>>nearing 700, yet for Vodafone to take this seriously we need thousands. >>>>> >>>>>To date we've not even got close to even the number of users of the >>>>>application signing, let alone additional support. >>>>> >>>>>Can I especially ask those of you who either work with or for the >>>>>organizations that supposedly represent us as blind folk, yes you >>>>>lot, those >>>>>of you at the RNIB, CNIB, AFB, NFB, etc, etc, you lot really have >>>>>made me >>>>>rather upset and irritated. >>>>> >>>>>To date I've posted two messages via each of your web-sites informing >>>>>you >>>>>all of our protest, has any one of you got back to me to ask for more >>>>>detail, have you mass mailed your members, have you lobbied in our >>>>>favour, >>>>>have you, no sir. Is this an outrage, is this a complete lack of >>>>>competence >>>>>when it comes to supporting those who you claim to represent? This >>>>>individual thinks so. So if you represent, or have a contact at your >>>>>local >>>>>blind organization please forward this message, we, or certainly I, >>>>>am very, >>>>>very disappointed in you all. >>>>> >>>>>As for those private individuals who have not yet signed, even if you >>>>>do not >>>>>own Access or a Symbian phone, your name should be on this list, the >>>>>list >>>>>says something about who we are and what we stand for as blind folks, it >>>>>says that we will not lay down and be ignored whilst our tools to >>>>>freedom >>>>>and mobility are stolen from us. It says we have a voice and we are >>>>>prepared >>>>>to use it when necessary. >>>>> >>>>>This protest is about more than just Wayfinder Access, it is a >>>>>symbol, now >>>>>please, I urge you all, we need this link spreading, we need it sharing, >>>>>Face Book pages, Twitter, those of you who produce pod casts, mailing >>>>>lists >>>>>etc, etc, if you believe in your freedom to mobility and your rights to >>>>>accessible products then make your mark. >>>>> >>>>>More than this, those you know need to say that they too are in >>>>>support of >>>>>our cause, so get your address book and forward this link, >>>>>personalize it >>>>>with a few lines of message, get the word out there. >>>>> >>>>>The protest site has a league table on it at the bottom of the public >>>>>signatures page, it's dynamic and countries move about on the list. >>>>>To date >>>>>we've only had a tiny portion of blind people around the world sign up. >>>>>Spread the word folks. >>>>> >>>>>www.talknav.com/protest >>>>> >>>>>This issue rests squarely in your hands, make a difference today... >>>>> >>>>>Regards. >>>>> >>>>>Neil Barnfather. >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Access mailing list >>>>>acc...@accessusers.com >>>>>http://wfusers.com/mailman/listinfo/access >>>>> >>>>>Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>>>>eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>>>>and >>>>>Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Did you miss a message? 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