On 11/07/16 11:44 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > > | From: Blaise Alleyne via talk <talk@gtalug.org> > | On 11/07/16 10:19 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | > Nextcloud forked OwnCloud last month and made its first release this > month. > > | However, they'll need a bit of time. As an ownCloud user, I expect to move > to > | NextCloud some time, but not today or tomorrow -- maybe later in 2016 or in > | 2017, as they get things in order. > > Yeah. But what do you think needs to get in order? Infrastructure? >
Well, for example, I went to look at doing an install last week, and they've got a tarball, but with my ownCloud installs I've got the ownCloud Debian repo configured. I know there have been issues that the ownCloud community has been confronting in the best way to provide updates... but I'd rather not be unpacking *.tar.gz and figuring out whatever NextCloud's unique upgrade process is every time there's a bug fix or security release. I'd rather wait until they have their recommending update method / repo situation sorted out, so it's easier to maintain an installation. (Admittedly, I spent all of 5 minutes checking this out before deciding to check back again in a few months -- maybe I've missed something.) > Is it likely inferior to the ownCloud product that it started with? > I doubt the application itself is inferior, since it's probably identical to the community edition. More the apt versus tarball type consideration. > Is it likely that a lot of changes will happen at the start such that > it is better to wait for things to slow down? > Less of a concern there... my hunch would be that a ton of their effort would be immediately spent on things *other* than creating a bunch of changes to the functionality of the program. Plus, it's a lot of the same leading developers. > Are you waiting for them to shake-down their new processes? > Yeah, more this kind of thing -- I guess just waiting for the dust to settle a bit? I'm not sure specifically, but I think about OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice, or MySQL/MariaDB -- it's hard to tell in the days preceding a high profile fork just how it will pan out and when things will stabilize, and when there will be enough momentum/stability that you can have some confidence you know what the new thing is and that it has a solid future, or which project has the better future, etc. I think it's clear from all the defections that NextCloud is the future over ownCloud, but waiting to see things stabilize... I'm no expert here. Just a daily ownCloud user and sysadmin (probably soon to be a daily nextCloud user and sysadmin...).
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