On 5/9/20 7:25 PM, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote:
On 2020-05-07 4:09 p.m., Alvin Starr via talk wrote:
The headers and cables tended to be pretty standard.
Thanks, Alvin. TIL I learned that they're actually not. Well, there's
one standard, and there's the thing that ASUS uses. Guess who bought a
"standard" cable but has an ASUS motherboard?
The "standard" way assumes an IDC 10-way header on the motherboard and
an IDC 9-pin RS-232 connector on the other end. Because of the
difference in pin ordering, a straight-through ribbon cable ends up
mapping header pins 1-9 to 1, 6, 2, 7, 3, 8, 4, 9.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9
Someone once said.
"The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to chose from"
I have had good luck with Asus boards over the years but its been a long
time since I plugged in a serial port.
That sucks that the pin layout no longer supports headers and ribbon cables.
You can see the pinout for this on a weird little embedded 386SX clone
I have (ZF MicroSystems OEMmodule):
https://archive.org/details/zf_systemcard_technical/page/10/mode/2up
ASUS, bless 'em, decided that they should be different and mapping
header pins 1-9 to RS-232 connector pins 1-9. More logical, maybe, but
it means you can never use IDC 9-pin connectors with an ASUS board.
I've rewired it and all is well.
There are a number of programs for managing serial ports but I have
had reasonably good luck with minicom.
minicom's usually my go-to program too. One of my devices insists on
talking 7M1, and minicom can't set that as a default. I had to compile
the venerable C-Kermit for out-the-box mark parity support. C-Kermit
doesn't come as an Ubuntu package, and building it is a bit special.
CUNY stopped supporting it (and Frank) in 2011, so development has
slowed way down. A shame, 'cos you can bootstrap Kermit using almost
anything and end up with a robust 8-bit file transfer path.
I know people still using UUCP.
So not all serial communications are dead.
cheers,
Stewart
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