On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 11:38 AM Evan Leibovitch <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 7:37 AM o1bigtenor via talk <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> One doesn't use a cell phone (well I wouldn't) but a cellphone number is 
>> demanded to verify one's identity. Without a working cellphone connection 
>> one is today - - - a NON-person.
>
>
> OK, what other ways of verifying identity would you prefer?

Sending a secure email to my secure email account would be a start.
Except the preferrence is to gmail - - - to feed the advertising
engine you know!

> You can still do most of what needs to be done with banks and government 
> through in-person and/or postal service that can be done without connectivity 
> of any kind.

Postal service - - - - what a misd nomer!!!

Post office hours are such so that that would necessitate a special
trip into town. (Gross costs about $35.)
Bank I am dealing with doesn't do in person stuff any more - - - they
might upon special request but as I'm
neither part of the 'elderly' (yet) nor infirm that's also a no go.
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>> I understand that you don't get the problem but then you are an urban dweller
>
>
> As are more than 80% of Canadians.

Its actually 93% or Canuckistanis - - - which is why its so
frustrating for the other 7% - - - the 93% asks
why should we give a c**p - - - they see no need for the fix.
Except even among urban dwellers there is a rapidly widening
availability of services and the probelm is
increasing rather than diminishing. (Cell phone access is based upon
maximal profit for the providers
not upon providing a service. This has supposedly been an election
issue for just short of some 25 years
here and still no changes - - - just more platitudes!)
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>> who has absolutely no idea what its like trying to connect to an ever 
>> increasing number of entities that demand SMS connectiviity
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>
> You're right, I have no idea. I logically assume that if someone wants to 
> "connect" that first they possess a device capable of "connecting".
>
> Please explain why this should not be the case.

Why should this method of 'connecting' be imposed upon those who don't
even have the option to use it?
>
> FWIW, much of my most important supplemental authentication -- including a 
> number of government accounts -- is done through an authenticator app which 
> does not rely on SMS.

Hmmmmmm - - - you're still using a stupid phone - - - - - lets say
your stupid phone service died and you would not be able to
replace said service for 60 days - - - what would you do then?

It doesn't seem like you're getting the extent of the issue - - -
you're offerring solutions that just don't work if one
doesn't have access to cellphone service.

I have one - - - use it when I go into town - - - - otherwise - - -
imo - - - - its a stupidly expensive
(and quite useless here) communication device - - - - and not much else.

Regards
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