On 8/22/07, David Merryweather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It takes some practice for many programmers because it isn't a natural > transition, but if you can take off the programmer hat and look at your > projects from the problem and solution domain instead, you will find that > these frameworks begin to fit your new thinking. This is what I have found > watching our programmers and outsource groups make the change over.
I would challenge this point... as I've seen the opposite happening more and more. There is a budding school of thought among new PHP'ers that says "you do it this way or it's wrong". Yes, the developers are to blame, not the framework, but it concerns me a bit that they're seeing everything in relation to how it doesn't match their framework of choice. That's originally why I picked up the Zend Framework. Instead of a fixed structure for my applications, it felt more like a tool box. I can reach in and pull out Logging, PDF creation, DB access, whatever and only use the pieces I need. It hasn't required a re-write/re-structuring of my applications, so it's been more evolutionary as opposed to scorched earth. In fact, while working on site for a major news network, I added logging using Zend_Log in about 45 minutes. Full Disclosure: Technically, I'm a contributor to the Zend Framework (signed the CLA), but I have yet to contribute anything... but I am speaking at ZendCon about the above experience. kc -- D. Keith Casey Jr. CEO, CaseySoftware, LLC http://CaseySoftware.com _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
