Ajai Khattri wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, David Krings wrote:

Sure, you can use some cryptic editor

Cryptic to *you* perhaps...

I know vi is the holy grail of editors, but I find it cryptic and unintuitive. Sure, after learning all the keyboard shortcuts that amount more to a scripting language you get a lot done, but I find it silly to spend more time on learning the tool than learning the trade..... unless I am a vi salesman.

and it really gets your hands dirty, but you are also less efficient.

Speak for yourself. With the right options and plugins, a good text editor is great - muscle memory means I dont to think about the act of editing but just focus on the code. And again, for *me* constantly switching between mouse and keyboard is totally inefficient.

I use NuSpehere and find that I do not constantly switch between keyboard and mouse. I use the mouse for tasks such as creating a new file in the desired location (browsing is faster using a mouse) or when scrolling through the code to set breakpoints. I don't think that an IDE forces one to use a mouse constantly. There are plenty of keyboard shortcuts and tab sequences that allow for working mouseless. And if you take a text editor and install add-ons and plugins to help along with coding it smells like IDE to me, at least the lines get blurred between IDE and text editor. What I like about NuSphere (and other PHP IDEs as well) is the integrated server, the properly working debugger, and with that the option to set breakpoints. I know I can accomplish that in other ways, but I tried to do so with Eclipse and it was a total nightmare. Things may have changed by now. By jolly, I'm not trying to make you a convert. I know of people who can compile code in the brains and if they had a network plug in their ears they wouldn't even need a PC.


Maybe the assembler developers who write firmware are fine with a simple editor that has some really basic functions

Actually I coded assembler languages when I was a kid too, and most good assembly language systems are more than just simple text editors...

I learned assembler on the Z80 and the editor that we had was really not much more than a somewhat better text editor. It may depend on the development kit that is available for the platform.


David
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