Brice, The Insert-Arrow keys are used to help navigate the Windows 8 start screen, not the desktop. If you're using Windows 8 press the Windows key to open the start screen, and you should hear Window-Eyes speak something like, "Mail, R1 C1."
If you use the Insert-Arrow keys when in a normal list view, Window-Eyes interprets that as your desire to virtually explore the control, which can only be done if details are shown-- which, in the case of the desktop, they aren't. Hence the confusing error message. I hope this helps. Regards, Steve On 3/20/2015 11:35 AM, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote: > Top bottom was checked, so that wasn't the problem. Okay, we are > sitting at the Desktop on a windows 8.1. My first tile says mail. > according to the tutorial I am listening to the top tile says one of > X, X meaning the amount of tiles on the desktop. My system is not > giving me this info. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kingston" > <tom.kings...@charter.net> > To: "Brice Mijares" <bricemija...@att.net>; "Window-Eyes Discussion > List" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: need help > > >> Brice, >> >> Go to Verbosity, Common, Miscellaneous. There is Speak top/bottom >> index and Speak current index. >> >> If you don't see these turn on Show advanced options under Help. >> >> Hth, >> Tom >> >> >> On 3/17/2015 12:12 PM, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote: >>> In wineyes control panel I can't locate where I can turn on window eyes >>> to echo the number of items in a list. For instance, if on the >>> desktop, >>> my Documents, 1 of 15. I don't get any of this feedback on my new >>> laptop >>> that I'm trying to learn. Windows 8.1 must be allot different than the >>> G W webinars for windows 8. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. >>> >>> >>> >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/sclower%40aisquared.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com