Well I started in windows 95 with a 101 keyboard. It did not have a windows key or an application's key. in fact it was a upgrade from windows 3.1. when I finely got a 104 keyboard you can believe I used all the new keys right away. One key to perform a task verces two. And two in a rather odd finguring location. As I said before if you are missing key you can always remap other key to perform task. AutoHotKey is a very useful utility. You can use it to remap keys. You can also use it to allow you to make short cuts to start programs. For example alt+windows+w starts window-eyes on my system. I have a lot of quick short cuts. The cool thing is also you can make your short cut script in to an exe file and take it with you to what ever computer you are working with.it is also free so no need to spend any money on a keyboard. Hth
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 11:46 AM To: net bat; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers... I guess that's what makes the world turn around, as my husband used to say: difference. I have never used the shift f10 for an applications key, because all computers where I would have needed an applications key on the keyboard, had them. I guess since you learned shift f10 first, that made the applications key harder to remember. Pam. -----Original Message----- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 1:16 PM To: Les Kriegler ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers... i can do without the application key but not the numlock key . i never use it because shift f10 is so much easier to find and use. i kept pressing the wrong key when trying to find that application key i went back to the shift f10 i have used for the last 30 years. -----Original Message----- From: Les Kriegler via Talk Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:07 AM To: 'Chris Grabowski' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: speaking of Dell computers... Hi Chris, I use the Logitech Bluetooth k810 and really love the keyboard. However, it doesn't have an applications key. Les -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+kriegler=nycap.rr....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:43 AM To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: speaking of Dell computers... I find newer Logitech keyboards do not have an applications key. The last couple of Microsoft keyboards I purchased have both a numlock and an applications key. Can't speak on any other brand keyboards. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 6:26 AM To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: speaking of Dell computers... Same thing here: My new Dell came with a keyboard but it did not have a num lock key, I purchassed another and it came without an Applications Key. I finally Purchassed a third keyboard that has both but the fellow at Best Buy had a hard time finding one with both the num lock and applications keys. My guess is software should be designed around this newkeyboard layout senario since I don't know if it is possible to influence the hardware manufactures to comply with an individual software product in lieu of 99.99 percent of their base client requirements. That or perhaps AI Squared could sell a compatible keyboard and even make a buck for coffee. I don't know the best solution but it seems the large manufacturers are getting away from the applications key and the num lock keys. By the way, the girl from Dell had no clue as to what I ment when I called them about getting a keyboard with both and sent me to a webPage where keyboards were detailed but even there I couldn't figure out which ones came with what I needed to work with WindowEyes and that is why I ended up over at Best Buy and their sales person also had a hard time finding one but, at least, he did find one, at least for now. It is quite frustrating to drop hundreds for a computer only to find out you need to hard scrounge additional hardware if you want to use WindowEyes and there was not anything on the WindowEyes site as to which keyboards were compatible with their software - at least I didn't find anything at the time. I guess in some cases a modified f10 key will work in place of the Applications Key but as far as I know no num lock key can be a killer me thinks. 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