The problem is, everybody says you get rid of it, and then it comes back a
couple of months later. Now that they are more urgently pushing it, it
might come back sooner. Pam.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 5:29 AM
To: 'Nick Sarames' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes?
Hi: Yes, I had allot of focus problems due to that popup.
This is one reason I am still concerned that WindowEyes is not handling them
properly and there are likely others happening.
Often I would hear "give us feedback" even after turning this off in the
Windows10 settings, think it was "send us feedback" before I turned it off.
Now when I switch pages or open a new program I will hear "Clear" or "clear
button" meaning something else is popping up that I cant find after I hear
it read using any of the WindowEyes keys so far.
There a lot of moving parts to Windows and how the screen reader handles
them can be a problem for focus, insert position and the relationship
between them me thinks.
That message is one thing that pushed me over the edge and convinced me to
upgrade to Windows10 but I am not sure that just turning that message off,
some folks had figured out a way to do it, I would have been happier with
Windows8.1 or whatever it was.
Anyway, there should be a way to turn off that popup and perhaps someone
will RePost the solution.
Rick USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Sarames [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 5:21 AM
To: Rick Thomas <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes?
An unrelated note, you may remember last week I posted that WE was
jumping around a lot, especially in websites, and occasionally while
reading e-mails in browse mode. As suddenly as that began, it stopped.
This barely happens now. Occasionally, We will lose focus while I am
reading a lengthy e-mail, but I think a lot of that has to do with the
Get Windows 10 message.
On 2/18/2016 4:56 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
A side note, anyone else?
I was just in internet explorer in the website where I get allot of
lockups.
I got none but it is about 4:30 am so likely little net traffic here and
not
allot of dynamic, flash and other ads being scheduled since they don't
want
to waste money with ads when few people are online in this area.
Now, when I closed internet explorer and returned to my desktop program I
heard a ca ching and WindowEyes said there was no information bar, think
it
was information bar and then I was placed into my desktop program as
usual.
I used alt-f4 to close internet explorer so this message should not have
happened unless WindowEyes was confused about something and so I thought I
would see if others have heard this or something similar.
It may indicate WindowEyes processing a message or something like being in
the wrong script or something if it happens so it was unusual, happened
and
we need to see if it is happening often enough to be in consideration when
thinking about internet explorer, focus and intermittant problems we are
encountering.
But if others are not having these types of problems we might not need to
include them in looking at the problem at hand - don't know but it was an
incorrect response by WindowEyes to a simple alt-f4 to close internet
explorer.
Rick USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]]
On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 4:46 AM
To: 'Nick Sarames' <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes?
Thanks Nick:
OK, so that might mean that DailyMotion has closed and ReStarted since the
video starts over.
When the video Restarts are you still in Internet Explorer playing the
video
or does Daily Motion work under Internet Explorer or your browser?
Rick USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Sarames [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 4:37 AM
To: Rick Thomas <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes?
I won't be able to answer all your questions, but I'm using the latest
WE on a Windows 8.0? (whatever Windows came before Windows-10. There
seem to be fewer IE messages while I am watching the videos on
dailymotion.com. When I click on the close the program button (or link
I can't remember) the video goes back to the beginning.
On 2/18/2016 4:19 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
Hi Nick:
What is your ccomputer, operating system and have you done anything like
turn off live tiles or any other settings that may impact how your
computer
and operating handles things like one note or any Operating System or
WindowEyes settings you think may be involved with your situation?
I know it is allot to think and try to remember but if there is one or 2
things that pop into your fron post up just to see if others can relate
to
these settings and lock up results.
Besides, if you are still getting lock ups in your browser watching your
videos the problem is still happening, just not as often.
I remember getting it watching a video, amazon prime or netflix I forget.
When I clicked the close program I think the video continued playing, I
forget but think that was the case.
If your video will continue playing does it continue at the exact place
you
left off or is it a little later or earlier in the video?
Rick USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Sarames [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 3:52 AM
To: Rick Thomas <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes?
When I used to have Windows-7 and WE 8.4(?), and I often got the
Interwnet Explorer has stopped working or an error caused Internet
Explorer to close. Often I w.ould have to wait for WE to read those
messages and finding the dialog boxes was difficult. Now the only time
I seem to get the, internet explorer has stopped working, messages is
when I am watching a video from dailymotion.com. I have no problem
finding the window and the button to aledgedly close the program.
On 2/17/2016 5:35 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:
Hi:
I get allot of situations, especially in Internet Explorer, where
WindowEyes
will stop speaking either for several seconds or entirely.
This happens very often.
Sometimes I fire up narrator and hear the program is not responding and
click the close button and windoweyes will come back.
If anyone else is experiencing these types of problems have you
determined
if this is unique to WindowEyes or if it happens often with other screen
readers.
I noticed on e*trade windoweyes would not expand a item labeled Tax
Documents but JAWS did eexpand it so I could access the list of links to
get
to my tax documents and it made me wonder if this new html5 stuff and
how
the browsers handle it is causing WindowEyes problems and perhaps
causing
it
to try and navigate around looking for something it cant find and thus
causing delays and, in some cases, crashes when things get locked up.
I can run some tests using JAWS, havent done that yet, but don't have
nor
understand how to use nvda correctly so thought I would ask if anyone
else
has noticed these types of problems in WindowEyes and worked around them
with other screen readers to determine if it is unique to mysituation or
if
this is a problem worth looking at trying to narrow down via testing and
getting some more specifics for the WE Staff if they are interested in
our
test results.
Rick USA
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