My prediction is, that all the anti-Jaws folks will eventually realize that the honeymoon with NVDA will be over, and they will end up purchasing Jaws despite their vitriol.
On 5/8/2017 6:51 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: > Why do you not like NVDA? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn....@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 6:40 PM > To: Chris Skarstad <rascal0...@verizon.net>; talk@lists.window-eyes.com > Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! > > I'm afraid you're most likely right. NVDA is by no means my favorite screen > reader but I've had to use it with MSWord since getting Windows 10 so I may > as well get used to using it for other things. I absolutely despise JAWS and > so I refuse to go back to it, so that means NVDA. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Skarstad via Talk > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 4:30 PM > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com > Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! > > I suspect certain people at VFO feel the exact same way about > Window-eyes. > > Unfortunately, Window-eyes has always been kind of seen as the underdog, > whereas JAWS is the more popular option. The most popular doesn't always > mean better, but when you're dealing with money, that's what > happens. So unfortunately, it's looking more and more like JAWS > will win. I hope I am wrong. > > > > > On 5/8/2017 6:20 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: >> Yes, I know this. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf >> Of Reeva Webb via Talk >> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 6:06 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; Vaughan >> Dodd <vaughan.dodd...@msd.govt.nz> >> Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! >> >> Magic's death is coming and it's deserved. That software is a joke. >> Vfo selling we sma's means nothing. Of course they'll take your money. >> You're not gonna get what you paid for but it's your money. Most >> likely sma holders will get discounted jfw offered. I've never seen so >> many people determined to bury they heads in the sand. We's time is up >> y'all. You can use we until your pc turns to dust but the reality is >> that there won't be any future improvements. As new windows stuff >> comes out, we will become unusable. >> >> >> "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never >> promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls >> Of Jericho >> >> Reeva >> >> On May 8, 2017 3:22 PM, "Vaughan Dodd via Talk" >> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >> wrote: >> >> Yes: but have they developed Magic? >> >> Vaughan. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt.nz@lists. >> window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2017 7:50 a.m. >> To: aist...@ameritech.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! >> >> Since obtaining ZoomText, they haven't scrapped Magic. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Adaptive Information Systems Inc. via Talk >> To: 'Peter Duran' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 3:14 PM >> Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! >> >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> Why not two screen readers from VFO. >> >> Many other companies in the real world have more than one brand of >> products >> in their offerings, why not Window-eyes which is far better than >> the other >> brand VFO sells. >> >> Also if Window-eyes is dead like so many speculate, VFO had no >> issues in >> selling me a Window-eyes SMA a month ago for $199.00 for the next >> two major >> upgrades! >> >> Narrator has a long way to go to be a viable screen reader and do >> we want to >> be relying on Narrator for Windows, like those poor folks who have >> MAC and >> appple products having only one choice, Voice over! >> >> NVDA is coming along, but it has a way to go to be equal to >> Window-eyes. >> >> I am successfully using Window-eyes 9.1 with XP Pro. >> YOU are probably laughing, but MY company did over $500,000.00 >> using XP pro, >> Window-eyes 9.1, AVG 2 year protection software, Firefox for my >> browser, >> Office 2003 with the ms converter patch to access office 2007 and >> up files, >> and good old outlook express and outlook as email clients with >> little or no >> issues! >> >> I also have over 6 computers with windows 7 pro with the latest >> Window-eyes >> 9.54 with little issues. >> >> I wil go to Dolphin screen reader before I am stuck with no >> Window-eyes and >> have NVDA as a backup screen reader. >> >> Who knows, maybe if the alternative facts are true about the end of >> Window-eyes, maybe some other adaptive company wil take it over and >> keep it >> alive, Like HumanWare. >> >> So I wil expect a refund from VFO if Window-eyes does not come out >> with any >> major upgrades and use my refund to purchase Dolphin screen reader >> software >> instead. >> >> Regards, >> Roger Behm >> >> >> >> >> Adaptive Information Systems Inc. >> We Make Technology Accessible to the vision Impaired and Reading >> Disabled >> >> Roger A. Behm, President >> 1611 Clover Lane >> Janesville WI 53545-1388 >> Fax: 608-758-7898 >> Voice: 608-758-0933 >> Email: aist...@ameritech.net >> Web Page: www.adaptiveinformation.org >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech.net@lists.window- >> eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk >> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 12:58 PM >> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Subject: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! >> >> It always amazes me when smart folks (like on this list) prefer a >> fanticy >> instead of reality. There is absolutely no reason for Window-Eyes to >> continue and compete with JFW. Why would they do that? >> >> There are 3 options to check out: Narrator on Windows 10, NVDA, and >> VoiceOver. 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