Hi Grumpy Dave and all, My name is David Moore. I just joined this list to let people know that I am here for you to help you with the transition to JAWS. JAWS uses the numpad a lot for desktop layout, and there are commands for the laptop layout without a numpad as well. I am here to answer all of your questions about JAWS. I have been a JAWS user for 15 years, and I use NVDA a lot as well. If any of you need tutorials for JAWS or NVDA, I can help you a lot with both Screen readers. Take care! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Tony C via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:49 PM To: Dave; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration I think someone would have to be a bit dim-witted not to take the offer. -----Original Message----- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:37 PM To: Orlando Enrique Fiol ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Hello Orlando, There was, at least for me, a good reason to migrate Sooner rather than later. If I wait around too long, say after the end of July, the VFO offer to register me with a Free Copy of JAWS 18 would go away, and I would then need to fork out $1000. Plus, I really had nothing to lose by taking the offer from VFO. Window Eyes is working well enough, for now, and I have also been using NVDA, which has been doing what I need it to do at Work. I can take my time to learn JAWS, since I have two other Screen Readers to use until I come up to speed with Jaws. >From what I've seen of Jaws so far, Jaws is a very powerful Screen Reader. Learning Jaws is something like moving to a new neighborhood, after living in another neighborhood for 20 or more years. The new neighborhood is different, and Unknown. As a blind man, I now need to learn my way to a few places, such as the Grocery store, Drug Store, and to the Bus stops. The Curbs are similar but different. The street crossings are similar and yet different. Even the Sidewalks are similar, and yet they too are different. Jaws is the same. jaws does many of the things Window Eyes does, just in slightly different ways. Terms and Features are different or Similar to Window Eyes terms and Features. I think VFO put some thought into their offer to Window Eyes users, and they were ready with Tutorials for those who would Migrate. They didn't need to do this. They could have just told all new users of Jaws to wade through the existing Help Documentation-- which might have been more than enough for most. But, instead they did what they did to help Window Eyes users make the transition smoothly. As migrators, we do need to put in some effort to learn the new Screen Reader. insisting that VFO some how owes all of us some extra special training is just another example of that Spoiled Handicapper EntitlementMentality, that is so ugly. Like moving into the New Neighborhood, by walking around, doing some exploration, all will make the new and unfamiliar neighborhood become familiar and like Home. It takes effort though. Effort on your part, not on VFO's part. Grumpy Dave Dave <dlh...@centurylink.net> _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40mediacombb.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jesusloves1966%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com