As has been pointed out.  NVDA is Open-Source which makes it extremely 
vulnerable to being hacked or used to exploit Ransomeware or otherwise. 
Government and Commercial organizations are not likely to approve NVDA in 
their Business Model for Adaptive Technology.

NVDA is fine for personal use but I would use it at one's own risk.  Just be 
very certain to be vigilent with antivirus and malware protection.


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From: "Sky Mundell via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
To: "'Joseph Norton'" <joseph.nor...@gmail.com>; "'Window-Eyes Discussion 
List'" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 12:41 AM
Subject: RE: future use of WE


Or you can also put NVDA on as well, NVDA should not be overlooked as its
becoming extremely popular and I want to assure you guys that NVDA will not
be going away anytime soon and I think System Access from Serotek is still
alive and I don't see SA going away anytime soon. So Neither NVDA, or SA
will be going away anytime soon.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:59 PM
To: 'Don H'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: future use of WE

Hi:

Let me say that I'm typing this message in Outlook 2016 with WE 9.5.4 with
no significant problems.

However, I am using Windows 10 Insider Preview build 16232.  WE is working
for some things, but, it always comes up with the four beeps, indicating
video driver issues.  In the about box, WE says "Video Driver not Attached".
WE still responds to Internet Explorer as usual.  It's possible I won't be
able to use the mouse pointer for a lot of things.  I do think WE is still
using UI Automation, since it works extremely well with Bard Express, to
site one example.

So, I don't think WE will just quit.  There are things it won't access as
well, due to program changes and no response from WE developers.  So, until
the Fall Creator's update comes out, WE should keep working without major
issues.

I was using it with the Windows 10 mail app, but, they did something and it
no longer seems to work.  This is a modern app and is subject to change
through the use of MS's update system.

Now, if you're using Windows 7/8/8.1, you probably won't notice much for a
while, as most things will not be updated to be incompatible.
If WE is doing what you want, keep using it.  If you can take advantage of
the offer from VFO, go ahead and accept it, so it'll be in reserve if
something really gets broken.

Remember, you can put JAWS on the computer and it won't hurt anything.  That
way, you can switch quickly from one to the other.
ThankS!


-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 3:45 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: future use of WE

I have been a WE user for over 20 years and always felt it was the best
screen reader.  Now with no more development I have to realize that the next
major release of Win 10 just may stop WE dead in its tracks.  As I recall in
the past every new release of Windows required an update to WE to make WE
work with it.  So now if you plan on using WE well into the future you are
probably going to have to avoid any future major Windows upgrades.  Is that
a bad thing who knows.
I am finding that NVDA does a pretty good job with very few things it
doesn't do as well as WE.  I did take up VFO's offer of a free copy of Jaws
and am using it as my secondary screen reader.  If you plan on staying with
a Windows based computer I don't understand why you would not take the free
copy of Jaws.  Actually the Jaws SMA's are less expensive than the WE SMA's
I had purchased in the past.


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